OT: Jealousy in Artists

I get jealous too... or, at least, I get a deep, almost painful, gut-yearning to be as good as some of the artists I see!

I am so, so proud to be on that list, and *loving* watching you come into your own as a beadmaker. Don't worry about you-know-who (or anyone else) copying your ideas... it just means you have the creativity, and that you're worth watching!

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Starlia}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

-Kalera

Thank you Kalera. I know that painful, gut-yearning feeling too. LOL

I happen to think that the person and her husband are both idiots. Especially the husband. He doesn't even do glass - why is he posting?

-Ellen

Thanks for your kind words, Starlia...

I have that same yearning: I want to create work like Ginny Ruffner, Sally Prasch, William Morris...

There are some local beadmakers here in Toledo that pretty much ignore me. Not that I think we'd ever be great friends or anything, but it feels really weird.

And as for copying... Well, my advice is to just do what you do and try not to worry about it. That kind of attitude just indicates that you're making someone feel threatened because your work makes them feel inadequate. IMO, it's their problem, not yours.

Tink Check here for available work:

sounds to me like the jealousy thing is coming AT you more than FROM you, Starlia! Sarajane

Sarajane's Polymer Clay Gallery

I think it's wierd that those local beadmakers ignore you, Tink, and I'm gonna throw out there that it's probably because they feel threatened by you. You have moved very fast in a very short time period, and you're moving into larger forms of glasswork... that is very threatening to some beadmakers, as beadmaking is often considered to be "just" an introductory form of glasswork... something a "real glassworker" eventually moves beyond. Now, most career lampworkers know that's not the case... it's a different form of glasswork, not a juvenal form... but some people get a real stick up their butts when they see someone who starts in lampwork and then pursues an interest in furnace work. They project an attitude onto you, as if you've declared yourself "too good for beads". You've probably experienced the same discrimination in reverse, too... glassblowers treating you as if you're lesser because you came from a lampwork background.

I am also going to guess, just from personal experience, that they may have deemed you "snotty" because you're a little shy. This may not be the case at all, but I know I've had people decide I was a bitch because I was too shy to approach them, or so terrified and taken aback by their approach that I didn't know how to respond. I can't tell you how many times I've heard, "Oh, you're not at all like I thought you were!" when people get to know me and realize that I'm just a socially inept HUGE FREAKIN DORK, not a stuck-up Miss Priss. So, that may be a factor in their judgement... that through their internal filters they perceive you as something which you are, in fact, the very opposite of.

-Kalera

Tink, do you have links for those artists?

Tina

I totally agree with this - and it's such a good explanation, Kalera!! Starlia and Tink, those people who treat you badly in person aren't worth your time, IMO. I imagine they are just insecure. I have no idea who they are, because I have stopped reading the endless copy threads over at WC, but if they are acting that way, it's their loss.

The whole copying issue has just been done to death, and there is nothing to do but hold on to your integrity and move past it. If you know you are doing nothing wrong, and if you know that you are good at what you do, it's best to just be you and forget the negativity of others.

As for the shy thing - I get that all the time as well. I am really pretty shy in person, and I have had quite a few people think I am a snob because I find it hard to socialize when I don't know people very well. Once I get to know people, I am a lot more outgoing. Kalera = not stuck up in any way whatsoever!! She's one cool chick! I imagine Tink and Starlia are, too. :)

Sure do!

The Pre-Raphaelites were an odd bunch in their personal lives but they built on what they saw around them and some would say they lifted entire concepts straight out of the medieval world they could see every day in churches and buildings around them. What they did with it afterwards was what is inspiring.

I would love to take you around and show you all the Morris works available for view in Manchester alone. I remember how I felt the first time I stood in a room full of works by them all. It was simply indescribable.

Come on over! The she... um... boat is always open!

-Su

I guess you are right. I just hate feeling like I can't go to meetings and feel okay while at them. I am cordial and always say hello, etc. but you could slice the air with a knife.

Oh......hush. You're a sweety pie.

Scott

You mean at meetings or something?

I've always thought stuff like that was really 7th grade-ish. Why can't they grow up? What a waste.

I often feel like apologizing to a certain beader I accused of being elitist, not because I think she's NOT elitist, but I can't stand the way I behaved toward her. I'm ashamed of myself.

But I get stopped by one thing -- I think she acted badly in response to my accusations, showing her elitism and self-absorption and proving my point. It's hypocritical to apologize for something when it gets proven to you, you know? So I haven't apologized, even though I think that sort of behavior is a waste of life, and time, and that she and I probably could've been friends or at least colleagues. Our work is similar, she's simply not sick and I am....I see her career and think something like it could've been my life.

Now she's moving nearby from another state, and I sort of want to welcome her to California, and be friendly, and pave over past stupidity on my part, etc.

Then I stop and think, "But it sure seemed I was right about her. And if so, do I want someone like that to be friends, or even non-enemies, with me? Would THAT be a waste of my time?" It's confusing, and I haven't figured it out yet........She'll be showing up at local bead shows (starting with BABE in November). People around here know me. I don't want to wander around the bead shows avoiding anyone -- it's sort of a creepy feeling. And it's my home turf

-- I'm not going to skulk. Sigh ~~ Sooz To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph Chilton Pearce

Yeah -- VERY perceptive. ~~ Sooz To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph Chilton Pearce

Me too. I get that too. Or I get loud to overcompensate, and people think I'm obnoxious. I cant win! Haw! ~~ Sooz To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph Chilton Pearce

Maybe you could invite them all over for tea? ~~ Sooz To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph Chilton Pearce

I love your choice of artists Tink. I think you and I are a lot alike in our dreams and goals so that's why I gravitate towards you so much. Not that our styles are anything alike but it's more I want to follow in your footsteps.

My friend offered last night to buy me the large kiln I've been wanting to do sinks in. I really want to do large architectural pieces and doing sinks is where I want to start. I also want to do a glass blowing class as well and see where that takes me.

Shucks. Thanks.

Maybe slip a bit of little Itching powder in their seats