Re: ATTENTION: Julia

I have not the least idea whats going on here nor have I ever seen a note to reply TO.....

Sorry for the top posting but no one needs to re-read all this yet again. Apparently Julia from Julia's needles posted to the ABCP file sharing group. Whether you do that or not is none of my business, but it has generated a war of words over the last couple of days. She apparently has posted that she works for a group, The ESPC AKA Action Tape, AKA amazing designs and others, that is going after people who share designs, and is also a member of a group that while not supporting the sharing of said designs, does not agree with the extortion tactics of the ESPC et al. They assume all are guilty and demand a payment of anywhere from $300 to 500 to NOT prosecute. The question to her was how can you do both. So far there has been no answer. I am careful to purchase from dealers who do not subscribe to the ESPC....just because of the way they have conducted themselves. I have no problem with people protecting their rights, just the way the ESPC does it. ABCP is also where you can get something digitized if you want. Those guys are great and very talented. They do it for free and I am awaiting some logos for my family now. After seeing all this I did go to Julia's site and while her stuff is ok, I like more 'real' designs less cartoonish, less jump snitches and colour changes, more detail, I did notice that she has some things called 'Native' which were quite distressing to see. Our images and 'Icons' as she calls them are of a religious and spiritual nature to our culture. It was horrible to see them so poorly portrayed and offered for sale. Like a mockery of our culture. Very upsetting. I had hoped we were beyond the Indian jokes by now. But in a nutshell that is what is going on. Nothing to be too concerned about here probably just posted to stir up trouble.

On 8 Feb 2007 07:12:35 -0800, " snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com" wrote:

Do you mind!!, Hanna! Read before you jump all over my posting!! I have explained why the CC to this group but no, as you yahoo types have to make the habit you think for all us poor dumbos in posting YOUR version! An interpretation that is all cocked up! Put links to messages and let US decide rather than yet another of your long winded misconstrued fantasies! I post to keep the record, not to make trouble. You have a problem with that, mail me.

Sorry I did not see your post un till later, and then I did not really understand, I was just trying to explain things the way I understood them. Again I apologize Hanna and will try to read everything first.

I haven't read any of it--the original but from the attitude dispersed by response I don't want to. If all that can come out of any discussion is * you have a problem with that, email me" sounds a grouch first class. No thanks..

saw FAE , Bless us ALL with:

Err...you had to be reading the NG the post was originally made in (ABCP), Mary Lou :-) Also, "CC" is not the ummm "correct" terminology for Usenet. there is no Carbon Copy function in a newsreader. What meant (and did do) was add to the Groups header. This is perfectly acceptable use of Cross Posting for what intended to do.

Just again demonstrates your lack of comprehension, of anything you do read....eh,, Hanna :-p Again (maybe the 100th lesson in so many days), you could have simply edited(snipped) and added your comments at the bottom so the conversation 'flows'. It was good enough for the person you respond to to do it in consideration of others....why not you?

If you had bothered to read what posted you would have the explanation:-/ The lady(?) made one small mistake...leaving XNA on, I have now fixed that so that her intention for posting can be preserved.

Hanna, do try and control your 'mouth' whilst coming to an understanding of how Usenet works. As well intended as some of your posts are they lose value by introducing information that is misleading and/or poorly presented..top posting is included in that statement.

HtHs

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You loudmouths who read nothing and yet feel empowered to comment (on anything) really do slay me...Bigtime! Are you that stupid in RL also?

Wait..! Do not answer that...puuuuurLeeese!

lé.ÞeemÞ

To make a difference can be difficult. Thx for trying :)

Thx for fixing my mistake RH, I will try to remember to shek no archive next time :)