Amusing anger management stitching

Yes, of course, different parts of the world have different expressions and words that are appropriate 'there' but not 'here.'

Fornication Under Command of the King ... well, perhaps we should revert back to the original, eh. LOL

I wouldn't apologize to the child ... but would explain that in this country, that is not said.

But in other parts of the world, is the F word really ok to say? Especially from a child to an adult??

Gentle as you go, Marny

As far as I'm concerned, I may be a Yank liberal biotch with alternative tastes, but I still have some semblance of morals. I do not consider any level of swearing OK out of the mouths of children. Being a "modern" mom, I understand and accept that children will still learn and perpetuate this type of language. I make it a point that it may happen, but that is not the right thing to do... Geez, I sometimes can be a royal class paradox.

A teacher over here, went back to teaching after 20 years and is appalled at the lack of control possible over schoolkids today. If you correct them they tell you to "F*** off!", turn their backs in class, do just as they like. There`s no possibility of making them behave, since they get no discipline at home either. It gets worse and worse.

I`m not an advocate of beating kids, but one really wonders if things haven`t gone too far the other way. In fact one doesn`t wonder - one KNOWS it`s so!

A bit of healthy terror of a teacher didn`t harm anyone in MY year, I can vouch for that. The sternest teachers were actually the ones best liked and respected and, most of all, LEARNED from.

Pat P

What a relief to hear you say that! Thank goodness there are some of us left - all is not yet lost!

Pat P

Thanks Marny :-) I'm working on the free blackwork sampler from Classic Stitches website, since I liked the blackwork I had done before and wanted a sampler. (gee, how traditional haha) Also, I've been working on and off for a couple years on a large DMC pattern, can't remember the name but it's a mother elephant with her trunk draped over her baby, against a mostly yellow grass and blue sky background. It's on 16 count aida and the yellow part is about 3 inches high...took forever. Thankfully most of the sky, about 4-5 inches is just half cross stitches but it's still fairly monotonous to work through. The whole design is 14in. by 17 in. I have a second kit from that series, of a leopard in front of a sunset instead...lots of orange shades. I also habe a tree skirt on 14 count aida I've been working on occassionally, it's a french horn and some music notes on a staff in front of poinsettias. I hope to finish it by the time I have my own real house and tree. Since I'm a grad student I have an apartment and I'm usually busy attempting to do school work...that usually devolves into procrastination by cleaning house, or stitching, or my other hobby of model cars. Sara

"Marny Fischer" wrote in message news:qWwbe.1112$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...

Stand near a school yard and you will receive an education. Kids today have huge mouths on them, I am mild by comparison and I never said a word today as the policeman handed me a speeding ticket. $215 because ours are based on more money the faster you were going - sob! If I am reading the ticket right, I will also lose my license for the first week in June, oh the pain!

Wherever did you get the idea that there aren't a lot of us out here that agree that kids need to know that this type of language is unacceptable. I think most rational, thinking adults feel that way.

But I still think that a kid is going to say those words and although they need to be taught what's right and wrong, in most instances it isn't the worst thing they will ever do and doesn't deserve "capital punishment." A lesson in proper etiquette and some kind of mild punishment (depending on the age of the kid) will do more good. At least it will teach them that they will be punished and that it's frowned upon.

Lucille

Ain`t that just what I`ve been saying?

Speeding ticket, you? Perish the thought! ;-P

Pat P

Well, some of the reaction on here alone isn`t particularly encouraging. Trouble is, Lucille - you need to apply that to the parents, half the time!

Pat P

Oh, I'm so sorry about your speeding ticket. The money is bad enough but losing your license even for one week is a misery. Here in Florida the cost would be around the same amount but they also have a point system and I think if you get 12 points within a year you lose your license for a month and if you continue to get tickets they can suspend your license forever. But you can wipe the points off your license by attending a traffic school.

What a nuisance. Good for you for keeping your mouth shut. You wouldn't want to land in jail, would you?

Lucille

Pat,

We are of the same era. Do you remember how mortified one was if a "black mark" was on a report card, let alone a detention?. I also remember writing (and as a prefect giving" 100 lines. So boring, but it cut into the culprit's fun time!! Now the kids seem to have license to do what they want.

Gill

Hmmm, sounds like the first week in June would be an excellent time for you to vacation somewhere else!

Gill I was never mortified by detentions. Recently my school friend told me how lonely she was on Saturdays for the first few years as she had nobody to hang around with. We were at boarding school and Saturdays was when you served your detentions. Think I was there about three years before I had a Saturday off lol

And this is supposed to surprise who??????????

Shar> >>>Yes, of course, different parts of the world have different expressions > >> > >> and

-- Brenda

What do you expect if Politicians , swear regulary as well as other grown ups?, after all children copy grown ups !!! Look what happens at times in this group, when you and some of your friends Exchange `compliments`. Children , do not grow up in empty spaces, Parents , other grown ups around them , advertisements , all use Swear words. So the children pick them up. I think it is false to say children [ and grown ups] , didn`t swear like that before , they did it but not in public... If i remember correctly we had this debate before, and i expressed my concern that children Using words like" i will kill you' , eventually pass over a mental brake , against doing more aggressive deeds like Hitting each other .I don`t remember many of you agreeing with me. This is a harsh world , between growing terror threats, a globalized economy , an education that glorificates Competition, [ Several of you madeit a point to explain this to me several times] instead of glorifying in depth study.... what did you expect? Chidren now say alloud things, we dared only to think, while hiding somewhere. The answer is not beating , but example, private and public. I have had Colleagues who after working with me for a while lowered their level of swearing. My children never swear, Of course they know the ,eanin g of the words , but i adviced them always to read about it in the dictionary and think if they would like to be talked to, with this word. I did not correct them , just adviced them to understand the meaning of the word. It worked wherever i worked with kids or grown ups... Beating kids In former times , amybe stopped them from swearing aloud , but didn`t stop them from becoming criminals. At least Now adays more people are aware that Agressive behaviours as well as languague should be treated. Thoise Beaten up people from former generations weren`t less agressive, they were only more trained in hiding it. As to your`s and other`s recurrent complain

I don`t agree , people educate as they know , and as Culture dictates or demonstares to them. Were all of you Happy with the way You were brought up ? so much so that you Copied it and educated your kids in a SIMILAR way ???? Times change, people change. Society educates towards agressive behaviours.

I am not surprised at you saying it...But i tottaly disagree with you

If your idea was correct , than the most stern schools, military schools or Strictly religious schools should have produced Less Agressisve at least Verbaly persons . mirjam

Lucille , i see you are close to me in resisting this so called Brutality. Beating is another form of Agressive behaviour, If You as teacher or Grown up Beat a child , you only signal "That it is ok to Beat somebody , as long as you are in a position to do so !!!" A close friend of mine, taught a class who , used rather colorful langugage. Since she knnew about my ideas, she asked for advice, and here is what we worked out. She told them that they lack in using it more vividly, and asked them , to read through the dictionary and find all the possible connections to those words. Next lesson she asked them to prepare little signs with those words and each person to hang those signs on their neck , and she allowed each person to call the other with those names , and asked them to tell all how they felt being called thus ... The young people who now Understood fully the meaning stopped swearing , They haven`t become `angles` but my friend says the class was much better. mirjam

Why aren`t we surprised, Gill? ;-))

Pat P

"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen"

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At least Now adays

Well, even THAT would be an improvement! Hiding it, I mean.

Pat P