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I agree with you Dianne. If the driver was driving the speed limit and in the right lane, there is no reason for the highway patrol to stop them.

I've heard it said that drivers should be keeping up with the traffic flow, that doesn't make sense to me if the traffic is moving at 10 or

take care, Linda

Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada See pictures of my work at:

Dogma =)

Jenn L.

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Yup, doing the limit in the right should not have been pulled over.

If you're in the left hand lane and moving more slowly than the traffic around you, then you are causing a hazard.

Well, if that's how you want your tax dollars spent. I prefer that the highway patrol concentrate on keeping drunk and aggressive drivers off the road and on helping motorists with emergencies. It seems to me that there is a concensus among the enforcement agencies that the speed limits in this country are a political issue rather than actually corresponding with the speed at which it is safe to travel. Lately on the highways north of here, there have been aggressive speed traps because a state trooper was killed a few weeks ago. But even they won't pull over anyone going 65-70 mph or below (the speed limit is 55). That's just not who they're looking for and there are enough people going 90 (please note that I disapprove) to keep them busy.

Elizabeth

That is one of my very favorite movies in the whole wide world. My husband doesn't get why it's funny at all. ;)

To go as fast as you possibly can! LOL Those cops were in the wrong - encouraging people to exceed the speed limit - why have cops around at all? Kim

For the accidents that will follow!

Cheryl

No one said anything about being in the left hand lane and moving slowly. OTOH, if the traffic in the right hand lane is going over the speed limit then they should be ticketed for speeding. Yes, I know most highway patrols don't ticket anyone going slightly over the speed limit, ie. 10 mph or 10 kmph, but they could...

I have a feeling the thought may be that speeding drivers are often aggressive drivers, so by stopping the speeders they are reducing accidents. The speed limit you quote in the US is approx. the same as on our local highway which is 90 kmph. Your freeways are faster than that aren't they? I think ours are 100 or 110 kmph.

...Linda

Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada See pictures of my work at:

Actually, several people have mentioned it, as something you shouldn't do.

They could, but the costs in terms of manpower would be enormous. I don't think that's the best use of my tax dollar.

Yes, that is the thought, but the question is how fast do you have to be going to be considered aggessive? I don't think that 70-75mph is aggressive driving, especially if I am not tailgating or weaving.

The freeway closest to my house is 55mph. It goes up to 60mph as it moves south. The MassPike, I believe is 65, so someone doing 70 or 75 really isn't exceeding the speed limit by all that much and the road is straight and flat.

Elizabeth

My brother turned me on to it when he spent most of a day speaking in nothing but Dogma quotes... and then brought in his little 5" statuette of Buddy Christ to put on his desk at work... at a predominantly Jewish law firm (no there were no negative comments on the parts of the bosses, the ones who saw it knew where it was from)

I end up watching the movie at least once a month. Strangely, though, I haven't been able to get into any of Kevin Smith's other movies yet.

Jenn L.

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But it appears people 'in the know' ie. those who keep the stats do feel that fast drivers are aggressive drivers, and the cause of some accidents. The law determines what is or isn't speeding, not individual drivers. My SIL says she drives whatever she thinks the speed should be. Who the heck is she to decide what the speed should be?

There must be some reason why it is 55 mph near your house, but 60 mph further away...more accidents maybe? I have no idea...

...Linda

Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada See pictures of my work at:

In Calif, we have one speed limit for city and a higher one for rural areas. Not as many cars in the rural areas, so not as much chance of hitting anyone.

I may be behind in my legislative know, but there was a federal law that mandated highways in cities with more than XXX number of people couldn't have speeds more than 55 mph. As Elizabeth pointed out in a previous post, this is a "political" idea/agenda rather than a safety question.

It is usually in these areas that people are fuming mad at having to drive slow (thus, they don't) just to get federal highway dollars, when the roads are safe at higher speeds.

Dianne

This is a nice tautology you've created here. Do you ever stop to think about whether or not you agree with your government's definitions of things? I do. And I know that in *this* country (can't speak for Canada), speed limits were set by the Carter administration to conserve fuel. They have nothing to do with what is dangerous or not dangerous on a given road.

Can you give me a site for your contention that experts argue that fast drivers are agressive drivers? Can you show me where it defines fast as "exceeding the speed limit" rather than "driving faster than road conditions comfortably allow?" Because around here, the cops (who are pretty expert, I would say) won't pull someone over for driving 70 or 75 (which you insist on arguing is fast and agressive) but will pull them over for tailgating or weaving even at the speed limit.

Don't know anything about your sister in law, so I don't know. I did discover something interesting yesterday, though. You have been criticizing me because I admit to exceding the speed limit. So yesterday when I was driving my dogs to their agility lesson (and I am especially careful with my dogs in the car but I still do exceed the speed limit), I checked my spedometer occasionally, taking care to note the Kph rather than the Mph. I was pretty consistently driving 110 kph, which is legal in Canada according to you. So, essentially you are arguing with me because I drive as fast as you are legally allowed.

You have no idea, but you'll speculate an answer that supports the argument you want to make.

U.S. federal law mandates that states that receive federal funding for their highways must post 55 mile an hour speed limits on highways (even limited access highways) that pass through thickly settled areas. The law has nothing to do with how many accidents happen on a given stretch of road. Rather it was determined (over 20 years ago) that 55 is the speed at which automobiles are most efficient and that everyone should have to drive that speed. The upper 65 mph limit was a concession to pressures to allow people to commute, transport goods, etc more quickly. It is mandated on limited access highways in lightly settled areas. Neither limit has anything to do with the number of accidents occurring on those roads.

Elizabeth

Well the people in and around San Diego don't seem to have a speed limit. 85 and 90 mph seem to be the only speed the cars go down there and weave in and out of traffic. Driving on the freeway down there is like playing a very fast computer game. Mind boggling. Ruby who has been out practicing her weaving in prep for next trip .

I hear ya! I think driving those kinds of speeds are just asking for it. I don't like the low speed limits on some "highways", but I think

-- Brenda

The fastest speed limit that I have seen posted where Iive is 100 kph. which converts to approx. 62 mph. and that is permitted only on the inland highway, i.e. straight, boring driving with lots of speed traps. I don't know what the speed limit is on the 401 in Toronto, Ontario, Jim Cripwell might know...

I didn't know we were arguing, I thought we were discussing speedy drivers. My opinion is that anyone who is driving over the speed limit is risking a speeding ticket and has a higher risk of accidents.

Speaking of dogs... Doesn't it drive you crazy to see people driving with their dogs in their laps and the dog's head out the window??? How safe is that?!?!

So, in other words....Canada appears to have much different laws than the U.S.

...Linda

Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada See pictures of my work at:

My dogs travel in their crates. Just barely enough room in my car for two humans and two medium sized dogs in two large crates. My older boy rode quite nicely on the back seat until we read about an incident in Tennessee where a state trooper shot a couple's dog after he pulled them over during a traffic check. He made them get out of the car and the dog followed. When it approached the trooper, he shot it. My boy has travelled in a crate ever since.

Elizabeth

Very wise :)

....Linda

Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada See pictures of my work at: