OFF TOPIC - pierced ears

SO for significant other? That's what I see everywhere, anyway.

As I said, mine were done when I was a baby. I can wear nothing but gold for the posts. I have a lovely pair of Alexandrites my father gave me, set in platinum, but I can only wear them max two hours. From friends I know, this is so for many, many people.

Oh, I'm sure I could've come up with something to do with them. Eons ago, a friend and I shared the cost of a pair of huge earrings, and with a little creativity, they became hers-and-hers pendants (what was too large for her to want hanging off her ears was the right size to hang around her neck). I've also been known to send Dad a friend's orphaned earring and get back a pin. (Daddy can fix anything. VBG)

I suspect I could've worked them into a certain LOTV XS piece you sent me.

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:00:02 -0500, Cheryl Isaak defied the laws of time and space to say:

I'd wait until she had stopped growing. Otherwise as she continues to grow, the peircings may wind up moving and become misaligned from each other.

I'd also go to a place that uses a needle. It's less painful, and single-use needles are far more hygienic. Those guns hurt like hell and cannot be sterilized, and as far as I can tell the people who run the mall gun-piercing places receive no training in prevention of cross-contamination from the previous client.

(I've had mine pierced with a gun, and later with a needle, and I can tell ya the gun hurt WAY more.)

-Bertha

Mom and I got ours done together by a friend - I was 13 and she was

1. My girls got theirs done at about 13 and my niece at 7. The biggest thing is the maturity of the person.

My youngest daughter nearly passed out, but since she knew she'd be a little wimpy, the girl at Claire's scheduled her to be done while two people were in the shop so they both would take an ear and do them at the same instant. She was also very clammy and nervous when I first changed her earrings. My little niece was a rock - no big deal to her at all.

Both of my girls had tattoos done together. They were in their twenties but found out the same reaction occurred in my youngest - once again she got nervous and clammy. Funny thing, she went through a c-section 18 months ago after an emergency and found she could and would sail through anything so she and her husband could have their little girl. Good thing, since we just found out I'm going to be a grandmother again in June! Moni

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I have little rings that slip on my ear`s lobes , from above till the side , and NO HOLES , neither has my daughter ,,,, mirjam

I was a bit surprised, to read that you see ear piercing as a sort of transitional rite, i see it as a peer pressure trendy thing, maybe if you can stop this `kind` of rite, later she will be able to not give in to other `transitional rites` like drinking alcohol , or taking drugs in a much too early age, mirjam

The more i read this , the more i am sure that , human kind mooves backwards in history , until theend of 19th century children were comodities , were married off early , the 19th century strarted to with Froebel`s inventing kindergatens, kids got more education , a longer time to mature , a longer time to be kids , not little grown ups ,,,, why is this market culture trying to push children to be little copies of grown ups..? just pondering !!! mirjam

Ah - but it (like many other things) can be both. Piercing your ears could be a rite of passage for a maturing girl or it could be because "but Mom, everyone has pierced ears and they are making fun of me"

For example - my neighbor's s> I was a bit surprised, to read that you see ear piercing as a sort of

I don't necessarily agree. The point that most young girls see to (at least a first) ear piercing is to be able to wear pretty earrings.

And to those who have no problems with drinking alcohol in countries where there is an age restriction on who can and cannot drink, that is a legitimate rite of passage as well.

I wasn't allowed to until I turned 16. No daughters, and if DS wants to get anything pierced he's going to have to wait till he has a job and can pay for it himself.

FWIW, I don't think 9 is too too early, but it's definitely your call.

Sara

Well, I'm going to talk to DH about it and see how he feels about it. C

I understand your point of view still "Mom all others do it " isn`t thansitional rite , unless you agree to "mom all take drugs/mom all have sex/mom all have this and that". this is plain peer pressure and we should teach children to Stand against it !!!! one of the Best presents you can give your children !!! Transitional passages usually have Responsibilities , =taking care of your new made hole , isn`t much more that cleaning your teeth for that matter ,,,, I don`t see it as a transisional rite at all ,,, mirjam

your explanantion makes it even worse ,,, the poinnt is that you as parent encourage a young girl to indulge in an act of Beutifying hersel;f in the eyes of her friends , would it be better to teach her to save that money or effort in some action for OTHER people , and i don`t mean for the merchants who encourgae that ,, Our children here take a paassage of rights in teaching an other child who needs help , in going to the home of elderly people and help them with shoping etc,,,, They take a real responnsiblity for ANOTHER person , they GIVE , they don`t take for themselves ,,, mirjam

Cheryl Isaak wrote:

I wanted to have DD's done when she was a baby but my then spouse (this is the one who liked to smack me around when I was preggers) wouldn't hear of it. We got divorced when DD was about 3 but I waited to pierce her ears until she was 8. I did it myself and used some 20K gold earrings because they wouldn't bother her ears. Our Dr. said not to do it to infants because it's hard to judge exactly where the earring will end up once the kid has grown. Anyway, I would tell you to let your DD get her ears pierced -- tell her it's a Christmas Present. But also tell her that the very second she doesn't take care of them, you will take her earrings away and let the piercings close up (of course, they don't always close up but it's a nice threat -- LOL)! It can be a lot of fuss for a kid to have to mess with keeping the new piercings clean, etc, but if she's willing to be the one to keep her ears cleaned and remembers to keep turing the earrings so they don't "heal" then I don't see a problem. As for earrings, DD wore the little gold flower shape that I used when I pierced her ears. After that, she always had small earrings -- usually colored studs or gemstones or things like stars, etc. It made it a lot easier to buy her little stuff for special occasions. Once she was older -- middle school & high school -- she still preferred to wear smaller earrings. When she was in her mid 30's, she had her nose pierced -- YUCK!!! She came to the house one day with a tiny sapphire blue stud in her nose and I told her it looked like a huge blackhead -- LOL! She wore THAT stud again. Several years later, when we were planning her wedding, I asked her what she was going to wear in her nose for the wedding. I mentioned that if she wore a little pearl as she was planning, it might look like a huge pimple on her nose to the guests and especially in her photos! She decided not to wear anything in her nose since whatever she chose would look strange in her wedding photos. After that, she never again wore anything in her nose and let the piercing grow closed -- THANK YOU LORD -- LOLOL!

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That is incorrect, I have never seen Spanish adults with strange earring piercings and they are done at birth. I was maybe a couple of months old (I don't remember the event) and mine are exactly where they should be, nice and even etc.

My girls were done young and they wore gold studs and occasionally put something more fancy in but were in general perfectly happy with studs.

A young friend recently sent me his wedding pics and her dress was perfectly beautiful and everything looked wonderful - except the tattoo on her arm - I truly do not understand it at all and wonder what is going to happen when these women are in their 60/70/80s and how they will feel about them then ? The cost to remove them can only be more then.

My granddaughter had a nose ring and a tongue stud (uggh) but I noticed both disappeared shortly after my g-granddaughters arrival lol

My daughter's been asking about this lately. She's 6. I also have an 8mth old daughter.

I'm sorry but I don't agree with the poster who said it's child abuse to pierce babies ears. To each his own. With the product I have there will be minimum discomfort and if I choose to pierce my kid's ears, what's it to you?

They have a product out which you can use that numbs the ears and the kids don't even feel it. It's the same stuff they use in the hospital to numb an area before inserting an IV into a child. I think it's more the sound of the piercing gun that freaks them out more than anything else.

Anyhow, parents know their kids and each child is different. I went when I was 6, freaked OUT and ended up having one ear pierced for a year LOL! I wish I had've gotten Emily's ears done when she was a baby - I'm getting both of theirs done at the same time. Reputable place, and as a bonus they pierce both ears at the same time. Emily wasn't interested before, now she is - I'm getting my 8 mth old's done at the same time. At least people will stop asking if she's a boy! (what's up with that, a baby in all pink with flowers - is NOT A BOY!)

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These things are very cultural. In the US, the overwhelming majority of people see nothing whatsoever wrong with an older girl (and definitely not a woman) having her ears pierced. There are some who don't want their own ears pierced, and some who think it's inappropriate for babies or very little girls to have their ears pierced, but most would find girls getting their ears pierced to be akin to getting a driver's license at 16--something entirely appropriate for the age, though not everyone chooses to do it. Give that the overwhelming majority don't see it as a negative thing, it seems to me that likening it to illegal drug and alcohol use would simply backfire. It's much more akin to deciding when a girl is allowed to wear makeup, or heels, or any of those other things that people see as something that is appropriate once a girl is of a certain age. When you have those situations, it's much easier to tie the privilege to a certain milestone (whether that's age or something else) rather than having a constant argument over "Can I *now*? Please? How 'bout now? No? Then how about tomorrow?" Plant a stake in the ground and use it for a larger purpose.

Best wishes, Ericka