OT: More Equestrian

There's a "new" breed called Gypsy Vanners- here's a web site:

lot of friesian fans like the G.V's because of the coloring.Googling will probably lead to more info- I don't know much aboutthem, but a close friend really admires them. I call Friesians "TheFabio of the Horse World".

LOL! The first time I watched it, I wondered that, too!

J

LOL! I have no idea why, but that's a particular pet peeve of mine. If you're going to call a horse a stallion, it had better be a stallion! I've even seen pics of *mares* being called a stallion. Sheesh. I think they're just going with some "romantic" idea.

Joan

Well, did you ever see 'Legend' with Tom Cruise and Mia Sara? The 'mare' that survived the death of the stallion had a most interesting anatomy to anyone who might have been looking! (Y'didn't even have to look: the animal had a thick, muscular neck and haunches and was clearly male of one persuasion of another).

So, what exactly *is* the Appasionatta? I'd never heard of it before this video.

Joan

I want one NOW. That's them. So 'Irish Tinker Horse.' So beautiful. How are they made; are they a breed among their own class?

It's a great idea, isn't it? After the Cocky Incident, DH said to me 'Why don't you get a carer's licence? You'd make a brilliant bird rescuer!' And I thought (not boasting or anything - well - boasting, but only a bit...) 'Yeah, I would!' I've got a lifetime's fascination with birds and animals, a lot of experience in keeping (and repairing) them

*and* an ongoing commitment to native wildlife. So, soon as I can, I'm gunna! ;-D

I don't know if they're a 'breed' yet. AFAIK, they're still only a 'type', which means you see a lot of them and most look similar, but there's not yet a standard or studbook to record and register individual horses and their lines.

The Tinkers are the horses used and traded by the Traveller folk of Ireland and the UK. They have characteristics of the Clydesdale and other of the hardy British native ponies (such as the Fell and Dales ponies) and they arose more or less from the Tinkers' requirement for a strong, trustworthy horse that could pull a caravan and yet be quiet enough for small children to ride. They're only small (around fifteen hands) and well able to carry weight. Although I don't think I'd afflict mine on one! LOL!

Since you're interested, do a google on 'Drum Horse' and 'Knabstrup'. They're also pretty spectacular-looking! The Drum Horse is being developed as a breed in the US, but was derived from the coloured heavy horses chosen to carry the ceremonial kettle drums of regimental bands. If you watch carefully, you can see the rider (drummer) guiding the massive horse with his *feet*, as (of course) his hands are busy drumming.

(NB. S'pose I should add that 'coloured horse' refers to a horse which is parti-coloured - usually a single solid colour and white).

Hank, the lovely Clydesdale - it's a great commercial. The teams that Anheiser Busch has kept are stunning animals.

Very true. We used to have a lovely donkey at the barn in NC. Whenever you felt stressed, you could go stroke his lovely, soft, furry ears.

Ellice

Those would be gypsies in the British Isles. I've seen Gypsies in India with totally different looking horses, and same here. There was a movie done some years ago - maybe in the late 80s with Gabriel Byrne, in Ireland, essentially Gypsy family with the boys trying to raise a horse in their house - IIRC something like "Into the West" . I think the Gypsy horses have a lot to do with where that family group of Gypsies is.

Ellice

Ellice

Like the video. Essentially human dancers and horses performing together. It's a troupe. DH & I summed it up as "Cirque d'Soleil meets The Lipizzaner Stallions & Yanni" . Music, human dancers, dressage trained horses doing free-style - but not in the traditional way. Like the You Tube video. But, we haven't gone.Those I know who went were a but stunned. I'd think for horse folks it's really interesting. If you're not used to the horsey capabilities - might be really stunning. OTOH< I still remember the first time I saw the Lipizanners - my Dgreat Aunt took me - I was about 11, and we had fabulous seats, and she'd arranged for us to get backstage and into the barn. Amazing.

ellice

In the US generally called a "pinto" or "paint" like the Native American ponies, or a "piebald" which is a Black & White pinto or a "skewbald" which is chestnut and white. IIRC, horses that trace to T-bred or Quarterhorse, that are pintos can be registered as American Paints. Beyond that, I think all of these combinations are called Pinto here, but not all pintos are some specific variation.

Ellice

You are now officially an enabler! Who'da thunk in a needelwork newsgroup I'd be enabled with horses of this magnitude?

I think I'd need a 20 hand horse, Draft of course for me to put all my junk onto!

v

The little donkey was so cute. He put hair extensions on his legs to make the team! He finally does. So cute.

The Clydesdale's of Anheiser Busch are amazing. There is a team of them at Seaworld in San Antonio. The babies are taller than I am.

Speaking of four leggers, I also love giraffe. Did you know that they are the only four legged animal which walks on both front and hind legs on one side then the other? I wonder how they balance.

AFAIK (which isn't much), Gypsies and Travellers are distinct from one another. Gypsies are the Roma people of Indo-European background while the Travellers and 'tinkers' come from Celtic stock. Now that you mention it, there was a lovely Tinker horse in 'Into the West': the woman, Kathleen, rode it when she joined the search for the children.

Yeah. Piebald and skewbald are the only commonly used distinctions here in Oz, but with the increase in Western Pleasure riding, some of the more specific Paint/Pinto qualifications are sneaking in (like overo and tobiano etc etc). And don't get started on the Palominoes! Argument over the exact shade/hue of those has been known to cause wars in the Pony Club! LOLOLOLOL! I've got some nice pics of the Ugly Sister's palomino, Trigger, in my webshots album. It's called Betrisher in case you'd like to look at him. There's also some pretty early-on shots of Kate, the Clydie/QH cross, but she looks *awful* in them, as she was only half-grown and in very paddock nick. She's gleaming and as fat as mud now and you could set a table on her backside! ;->

Well, thenk yew! ;-D

Maybe we could get a pair of draught horses between us and get a discount for Bulk?

T