OT - My Bizarre Little Setback

Ah, A nursing assistant job. I'm a medic - just getting ready to test out on my full Paramedic, been an EMT for many, many years. But, also have advanced life saving certs (ACLS, PALS), and getting ready to start nursing school going on for my NP. My EMS education is about 60 semester hours of medical stuff - trauma, medical emergenices, peds, geriatrics, pharmacology, cardiology, A&B, plus labe, procedures, patient assessment. Which is significantly more than an LPN or MA class (particularly in terms of differential diagnosis, cardiology, pharmacology, trauma things). But, before my mid-life change of career I was a Research engineer, with a couple of undergrad degrees, Masters, and stupidly ABD with my doctorate. Plus I had started out as a pre-med in a do med school with undergrad program so had some med school background (I've had all the gross anatomy, physicology, and a bunch of related subjects years ago) before switching to engineering.

Anyhow, the way medical staffing works, with different limitations by state, but essentially staff less than MDs work under the license umbrella of a medical director. So, as a medic, I perform duties for which I have been trained, in accordance with protocols signed off by the county EMS Med Director, and have a guideline that allows me to administer medications, perform procedures within that scope of practice - without asking permission. I can call in for questions, or to get advice - different directions. That's why ALS medics have to learn so much to be able to make a critical initial differential diagnosis and initiate treatments (give the right med, do intubations, Ivs, some procedures ).

In a med practice the Mas, Nursing staff can do a lot of things like med administrations, blood draws, EKGs - as long as the med director has approved that their training allows them to do that. Where I was working, most of the nursing staff are Mas - which is a few month course focused on being able to do basic assistant procedures - doing vitals, giving injections, doing venipuncture. Doesn't go into the deeper science, whys, etc - it's a very functional training. This practice also has LPNs, RNs (not many) and a handful of NPs. So, the nursing staff is all grouped together - except the NPs - who have a lot of privileges on their own licenses. Evidently, my situation made the "older, lesser trained" Mas a bit uncomfortable (it's a do don't think kind of thing). The younger ones were fine.

Anyhow, I hope that explains things. It's pretty interesting in that most of us don't really know. I'm careful at my doctors - especially my primary care - when some new person is going to draw my blood and I'm not thrilled with their procedure.

Ellice

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ellice
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Egads, girl -- you were a covert op???? For what agency?

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anne

Thank you so much, Dawne. It's just a weird thing. Especially as the Exec Assist kept saying "it's you - there's nothing you could change - just how you are. Nothing you did - not insulting, ...blah, blah, blah".

DH and my friend in Nursing school (we did our A&P & Microbiology together) totally agree. Plus, this practice has a weird reputation. The medical recruiter that had been helping me (the 2 other jobs) had kind of warned me to be wary, but said make your own mind up. I sent him e-mail right after saying "OK - you were right" . Then we talked yesterday, and he has a couple of positions.

Ellice

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ellice

If you are looking for work in The USA.The following states can not fill there quota's for exc help. VA&NC Barbara

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Barbara

Oh we love Burn Notice in our house and have watched all the episodes for both seasons! I sometimes wish Bruce Campbell had a bigger part - he's hilarious and I'm a fan of his from his B-rated SciFi horror days :) I really like the voice-overs too - you know, so I can pick up hints on how to be better at covert ops!

The Closer is great too - another show we've watched every episode for the past few years. I love the characters and chemistry between all the detectives -good drama and funny at times as well!

MelissaD

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MelissaD

To you as well!

Ellice

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ellice

LOL - not exactly. But, if I told you, I'd have to kill you ;^) Let's just say my field of expertize isn't a common one, and I've had some very interesting work experience in the field, and with an interesting assortment of colleagues from a variety of agencies. And still have travel restrictions, since we don't quite get our brains/memories wiped. We do, however, have the occasional thrill of seeing some of my work on the Discovery channel. What fun.

Still, I really like the wry humor of that show, and the sneaking in of science and how things are made to work - as opposed to just which buttons to push.

Years ago there was some stupid movie, I think Executive Decision or similar, that had involved people getting into a highjacked plane and doing electronics things, and mid-air fueling. Including having a DARPA (Defense Advanced Research agency) guy actually as a field guy. My friend, a EE who worked at the same lab and I were hysterical at the movie. Both of us being female engineers that actually did field work (along with lab stuff) - the thought that anyone from DARPA would know which end of a screwdriver to use, let alone actually go into a situation wsa a riot. Mid movie we were - "yup, that's what people like us are for" ... Not that DARPA folks aren't smart, just we all do/did different things in the grand scheme of things.

Ellice

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ellice

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I am in VA - but.... VA also has some interesting labor rules that seem leftover from the days of the Old South, and no workers rights. Anyhow, I've got an interview tomorrow, and am working hard on getting something.

Thanks for the suggestion. Ellice

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ellice

When BN first came out, DH said "Hey, it's the "Bad Astronaut" from MONK" , a role that Jeffrey Donovan had played on a Monk episode. DH was a bit biased the first couple of episodes - I think he saw them not at first run. But, now, it's grown on him, and we both really like it. We were talking about the great job he does acting, changing the persona with his facial gesture, and even as short as his hair is - the little things that work so well. We definitely love Bruce Campbell - I think the whole cast does a great job fitting together as sort of those out of the norm characters.

Yup. Agreed. We don't watch a ton of network TV, but these have made our list.

DH really dislikes "Saving Grace" - I kind of tolerate it, but wonder what the heck Holly Hunter is thinking. And, at the same time, I think it sort of is a bit demeaning to many of the roles in it. But, who knows.

Ellice

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ellice

The critics seem to love Saving Grace and I always wondered why. I couldn't for the life of me "get it."

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Lucille

OMG, you worked with my ex-boss! He had some difficulty with language, so one day I asked why on earth he became a lawyer, where he'd have to use language all day, and his response was that he couldn't do manual labor because he was even more incompetent with tools.

Then we had a case involving a mechanical malfunction and it became obvious he wasn't kidding. If that case had gone to trial, I would've had to sit through it, because neither of our lawyers really understood how the errant device worked and I did. (Seriously, I found one of them reading the blueprints upside down, and when I turned them around, he muttered something about them making just as much sense the other way, then asked me to figure out what he was looking for.)

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Karen C in California

Karen, Now THAT needed a spew warning !! ;-)

-- Carey in MA (going back to my corner....)

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Carey N.

That is pretty funny. OTOH, blueprints can be confusing. WRT such things, devices, etc - I often wonder at how otherwise intelligent people who are secure that in their field they have specialized knowledge can't recognize they don't know everything. And, consequently, won't hire/find someone with the proper knowledge, skills, to do some specialty task. Like translating technical documents into lay language. At least my DB will call us up, or get a reference to an appropriate engineer/scientist to get explanations that he needs. It's hard to get people to realize that just because they can, my words, read the legend on the graph, doesn't mean they understand what the graph means. Had too much time with that battle.

On the tool side, I know lots of people that just aren't hands on types - either gender. It's always fun when they try, and then have to call in help to fix the now worse situation.

DH, who is quite handy, is actually quicker than me to think we may need additional help. But, he's also very careful in planning repairs, building stuff,etc. Quite detail oriented.

Ellice

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ellice

It was a source of amusement among the three of us that it was the girl who fully understood the mechanics when the guys were confused. I grew up around machinist/mechanic/engineer types and had been reading blueprints almost since I could read, so this was, literally, the case I was born to run.

Thankfully, the client was able to send us a cutaway, so I could show the guys how this doohickey moves that thingamajig to produce the proper end result, because they never would've been able to picture it without the tangible visual aid; I instinctively got the whole process off the blueprints, but the guys barely understood even with the cutaway. (And, yes, "doohickey" and "thingamajig" were the words the guys used, because the technical terms made no sense to them.)

And, hallelujah, the case settled on the courthouse steps so I didn't have to sit through months of trial, trussed up in a suit and nylons, explaining the expert testimony to the lawyers and prompting them what questions to ask when it's their turn. Believe me, if I'd had your phone number, I would've delegated that task to you!

We did have an expert witness, and the client was very good at explaining anything I had questions about, but neither of them could get their knowledge into the lawyers' heads in the time allotted. I cost less and was right there, and if it took an hour to get past "step one, this gizmo moves this way, which, step two, makes that one do that", I could take the time to explain it repeatedly. OK, now let's take another hour to go over how step two leads to and produces step three.

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Karen C in California

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There are a lot of explosions but I don't get the same hohum feeling I often do when something blows up on an action show or movie. And another thing, if I were inclined that way, I'd have to say that Fiona is one hot chick -- pretty, sexy, smart, savvy ..

I have vague recollections of DARPA being credited with establishing the network of computers that eventually became the Internet.

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anne

Absolutely correct. The DOD communications network was very vulnerable to attack. If you knocked out any key center, the whole network was seriously degraded. They wanted a network whereby if any node got knocked out, the rest of the network was unaffected. Hence the Internet. Interestingly, DARPA asked people like IBM and AT&T to do the developement, but they were not interested. So they went to the universities, who will, of course, do anything for money; DARPA had lots of money. This is the reason why, initially, the Internet was run by the universities. Jim.

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F.James Cripwell

Shana tova Ellice , i wish that the new year will bring a BETTER Job with nicer `menchen`. mirjam

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mirjam

She kind of looks like a friend of mine who is a EE - we were terrors in our lab. My boss upon meeting her at a meeting, came back to my office and said "I met someone that I bet you're friends with - judging by the hair, makeup, clothes...." I replied - "Ah, you were at the sensors meeting - you met P." He just looked, and then I said - good guess - we do shop together, and use the same hairstylist. Similarly things happened to her - I'd go do some briefing to her community, and she'd get the questions.

I think all the characters are good - though the mom is a bit wearisome to me.

Well, that would be true - as in they did provide funding and management for said project. A lot of the early work was done by the Army labs (Ballistic Research Lab up in Aberdeen has an historic early start). We actually had "ARPA Net" before the World-Wide-Net became active.

Ellice

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ellice

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