OT - all of it irrelevant including the Census

Here I am getting up on my soapbox again ... As a US citizen, she is still supposed to file the IRS form, and if she ever won the lottery, Uncle Sam would be right there with his hand out! Most countries (but not all) have reciprocal tax agreements so that you tell the IRS how much money you made, and you get to subtract that income (up to a certain amount, about $80,000 IIRC) from the income you have to pay US taxes on. I will never earn this amount of money in a year, so I don't send the IRS a check either. But it's not the same as paying no taxes, which implies no responsibility. And Congress can change the law any time it wants to -in fact, they have recently amended it to reduce the benefits companies can pay their overseas employees. Roberta in D

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Roberta Zollner
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Howdy!

Hmmm...I live in Texas, pay taxes in Texas, and I have no congressional representation.* I'd put a little grinny face icon here but it ain't funny. But I'm not giving up: I vote every chance I get. Our Women's Right to Vote amendment isn't even 100 yrs old yet!

*A couple of years ago the Tx. lege re-drew the district lines and threw everything out of whack, because they could, it had nothing to do w/ census results. The ruling party thinks it's the Royalty party. Boston Tea party does come to mind.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I'm 15 minutes away from Finishing a little quilt. But I keep delaying. Gotta' be the heat. Summer is over-rated.

Ragm> One major purpose of the Census is to determine Congressional districts.

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Sandy Ellison

I'd love to be allowed to vote in the country where I live and pay taxes (I have UK nationality but don't pay UK tax OR vote there though I could if I wanted to - but why do so? I don't live there and don't really have a clue about UK politics) I am allowed to vote for local government and for the European government but that's it - when the national voting time comes around I'm out in the cold and my vote is not wanted. me I think if you have the rights to vote locally one should be allowed to vote nationally as well.

here you vote for a representative in a party and all votes for members of a party get counted to determine how many seats they get in the gvmt. the party then decides who gets in and a lot of haggling determines who does what in the government so if blue get 5 votes and red 10 and orange 15 and there are 10 seats available the blue gets 2 seats, red gets 3 seats and orange gets 5 (and orange chooses the prime minister)

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Jessamy

Yes Leigh! I was c. collector that year too on the Gold Coast. Not a bad job for a few weeks for a few dollars. A couple of nips on the heels by little terriers! Most people were co-operative.

Bron

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Bronnie

You're right, not funny! All I do in Texas is vote. Seems like an exercise in futility most of the time. But if I don't vote, then I am no part of We the People! Roberta in D

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Roberta Zollner

He wouldn't have gotten close enough to a stranger to piddle on them! LOL The closest he'd ever get to a stranger was to stand right behind us and peek his head out around our legs. Once he knew someone he was a complete pest for attention, but he was painfully shy around new people.

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Kathy Applebaum

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DrQuilter

That sounds just like how Tuppence used to be, Kathy! Except that she was so fluffy and cute that people used to try to rush the getting-acquainted process -- and that just made her even more shy. Poor little scaredy-dog!

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Sandy Foster

Yup, same with ours. He was a lab mix with soft, slightly curly hair, and a kid magnet. But the poor thing was terrified of children (especially newborn babies for some odd reason), and the minute he saw a kid he'd run to us for protection. Try explaining to someone's three year old that they can't pet the doggie because he's scared! LOL But you couldn't have asked for a more loving, laid-back dog (except when it came to fetching, possessions, and quilting fabric, but that's a different story. *grin*)

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Kathy Applebaum

there is a reason the vehicle registration plates for washington, dc, our nation's captitol say

Taxation without representation

they pay federal and district taxes but have no vote in the senate and a delegate in the house but no vote so they have no voice on taxation matters either!

klh > so I should be allowed to vote too? I have been paying taxes here for

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klh in VA

Dexter is a lab mix and, while not terrified of children, is much more relaxed when they're leaving him alone. Tuppence, OTOH, *loved* children and got over her shyness most easily with them. If one of the DGSs was napping here, she'd park herself outside the door of the bedroom and wait, letting us know if there were any whimpers or stirrings inside.

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Sandy Foster

Ooh, ooh, ooh, I want to go to The Bunkhouse, Sandy!!!

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Donna in NE La.

I personally think any taxpayer ought to be able to vote in local elections even if not a citizen. But you all are going to have to lobby for that yourselves -we overseas citizens have enough issues already! Roberta in D

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Roberta Zollner

The issue then starts to become very complex.

What about citizens who are not taxpayers? Should they have a vote?

What about pe>I personally think any taxpayer ought to be able to vote in local elections

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Witchy Stitcher

like multiple drivers licenses and tax forms and vehicle inspections?

tax forms in english are bad enough swedish forms come already filled in :-) [best to doublecheck their numbers though]

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klh in VA

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DrQuilter

Electoral rolls are checked and you will get a "please explain" letter, and then - theoretically - a fine. Can't remember how much or how often it happens, but it's the law here for local, State and Federal elections. Local elections are generally for all those who pay rates/own property in the municipality.

You can apply for absentee and mail voting, so you don't have to be in a particular place on the day. And you can be exempted under certain circumstances (incapacity, etc). But by and large - if you're an adult citizen you vote.

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Cats

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