Learning

Last night I was finishing up a small bowl and got to thinking about what I have learned over the past 19 months sice I got my lathe. I have a rudimentary skill in sharpening my bowl gouge - I bought the fingernail gouge jig from Packard and due a fai job. Not that there isn't any room for improvement though. Other tools are sharp enough but again, they just won't split the photons of the dawn. My designs seem to all follow the same pattern. While turning is not boring I do expect inspiration for a new pattern or shape to strike "any day now". I pay little heed to the debate, such as it is of from following function or the other way around. I'll leave that one to those more interested in esoterica. I noticed in my thinking that sanding takes up a bit less time that when I first started although the glass-like smooth finish over the entire surface still eludes me. But then, I am not currently shooting for a piece that will sit in a glass case. The bowls do well enough to hold nuts, change, the occasional small salad and knick knacks. People receving them as gifts are appreciative and I have actually seen one or two in use. My finishes tend to be Danish oil and or shellac although I do leave the occasional piece in the raw. I have on occasion used a Minwax stain but have yet to master the technique of keeping the end grain from slurping up too much. Most, if not all of the wood I use is Maple as it is good wood [read:free]. I do wish I had some more of the hard maple that I first learned on as it was probably the prettiest I have ever had. Overall it seems the acquisition of skills one obtains with experience all tend to increase at the same pace. I wonder if anyone has just concentrated on improving just a single skill say, design, and then moved on to others.

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Kevin
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"Kevin" wrote in news:d6ahar$3j9$ snipped-for-privacy@rainier.uits.indiana.edu:

Good post!

The problem with the 'single skill' method is that all of the techniques are related. Every interesting piece takes several skills, even after the basic sharpening, mounting and roughing to round skills are achieved.

For some of us, the design phase comes easily. It's the making the piece look like our minds' eye sees it that drives the skill development.

Keep after it.

Patriarch, neophyte woodturner

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Patriarch

Don't know how much you have experimented but if you haven't try giving the end-grain a soaking of the thinner for the finish you find darkens too much. For pure oils, try mineral oil, for oil-based drying stains try mineral spirits (pure or make well thinned variant of your finish). You can also try a 1lb cut or weaker of shellac. Billh

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billh

SNIP ....... My designs seem to all follow the same pattern. While turning is not boring

-------------------- As you read through the posts on this news group, make note of the signature lines. Many have their web sites there and a lot will have some of their work on display. A couple of hours surfing those sites should give you a ton of new ideas. There's also sites dedicated only to wood turning pictures and instructions. Wood central and World of Woodturners are 2 excellent sites for inspiration. Don't be discouraged by what you see there. Many are really extraordinary, but thgey were done by turners who were in your situation at one time.

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-------------------------- As you practice, your quality will improve and those who you have given to may start to come to you for pieces to give as gifts ... for a fee.

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--------------------------- End grain can be a big problem. Usually a cellulose sanding sealer or a thinned coat of shellac prior to staining will help even out the stain coverage.

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You can study design separately, but most of the skills you'll need interact, so they'll be learned more or less together. If you are near a mid to large size city, there will probably be a turner's club there. They often have mentor programs where you can go to a turner's shop and get some instruction. That is time well spent. Otherwise, there may be a community college nearby that has classes.

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Ken Moon

I hate to suggest ripping off other peoples' styles, especially fter that last thread, but you might want to take a look at news:alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking and try making copies of the pics thaat you find. It'll develop your skills and feed your head at the same time. As for wood, When I was at IU there was a lot of beech and, dare I say it, buckeye running loose. Try getting buckeye burls, you'll like them. Try getting either of them for free and chewing the beechnuts while you work. It was a kid thing. You'll like it.

Dave in Fairfax

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Dave in Fairfax

I find that skills develop according to interest, attitude and karma..

The more interested I am in a particular thing, usually on seen here, tends to become a focus for a while.. for example:

A few weeks ago, I discovered wet sanding with mineral oil, and concentrated on that quite a bit..

A while before that, there were a lot of discussions over bowl sanding methods and equipment... I made a few "sorby type" hand sander wheels, then tried power sanding and got hooked..

A discussion here that george started regarding making thin shavings verses chips made me rethink my chisel use and such...

Tied in with that, we went out and got a lot of wood from the local forest and in preparation, I watched Bill Grumbine's bowl making DVD again... and realized that I was not even HOLDING the damn chisel effectively.. much work this weekend, making shavings and finding out how much more fun and less work a sharp gouge at the proper "attack" angle, and far less catches, can be..

IMO, you might be concentrating too much on the finished project... which is good, but not always fun... and can tend to limit your natural tendency to try new stuff.. I've used the lathe for my stress relief/shrink/place to vent for years... I just throw a piece of wood on that I don't care about and make shavings... spindles, bowls, funnels, whatever.. just for the joy of turning and the escape it provides...

mac

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mac davis

Last night a planned small maple bowl turned into a tall pencil cup just because I liked the grain too much to cut it away. I can't sell this thing, I simply don't know anyone who would buy a $30 pencil cup (or even a $5 pencil cup from me ... although they'd willingly pay $50 for one with a swoosh logo on it). They probably exist, but I don't know them.

So now I have a pencil cup for myself. I've always wanted a handmade maple pencil cup. Well, at least I've always wanted one since about 10 pm last night.

Bill

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Bill C.

I find that my styles are very simple, and the "nicer" the wood, the more basic the shape... mostly, i just love wood so much that I want to accent or enhance it, not detract from it with lines and beads... I think most of us would agree that wood is attractive... I've seen a few slabs on ABPW that you could frame and hang on the wall... some curly redwood comes to mind, I really lusted after that slab.. lol

mac

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mac davis

I have found that most of my stuff (other than pens) tend to look more like "cross sections" than anything else.

I am sure that I just need to have some more practice. however, right at this moment, i am trying learn how to sharpen my tools iwth my new wolverine jig. sadly, i can successfully say that i now have a very short, unsharp sorby bowl gauge. the guy on the oneway video made it look so easy. but, it was not easy for me and now the flute on my tool is less than 4" long. hmmm... perhaps a technique thing?

Rob

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Rob McConachie

no worries, Rob... it's not the size of your flute, but how you use it..

To late to tell you department: I learned what sharpening I know on a $10 set of chisels from Harbor Freight, then attacked my good ones..

mac

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mac davis

Trick for keeping end grain from becoming darker than side grain when oiling

  1. sand to two finer grits than the side grain and burnish with shavings

or

  1. Hit the bottom with 1/2 pound cut of blonde or super blonde dewaxed shellac then sand lightly with 400 grit.

charlie b

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charlieb

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