I'm aware of many people who would like to express their support of your logical request. I am but one.
I'm sure this used to be a helpful, informative place for people to come ask their questions and offer assistance. I have not seen that offered but to a chosen few for quite some time. It has degraded into something of a "private club" where every member must support the token narcissist or face the wrath of the coven that follows. Such a waste of bytes and bandwidth... I have faith that the response to this post will confirm my observations.
May the force be with you!
PS: For those of you who wonder why I still read this group, it serves as a reminder to me. Not only of how I may be viewed by total strangers, but to try my best not be a horrible example of how rotten humans can be to each other.
So "Daisy" jumping on somebody's case is OK but general conversation of the sort that occurs in a group that meets face-to-face is NOT ok, here in an electronic forum? A post labelled OT should be ignored by those not interested in off-topic posts, there's no reason to pile on a heap of shit because you don't want OT posts but read them anyhow. There's more than a little hypocrisy there, don't you think?
This is still a useful forum when people who intentionally try to stir up some shit take their obnoxious selves elsewhere. I don't easily suffer fools, but I try to be helpful when I have the time.
It has degraded into something of a "private
Huh? I don't blindly support anything or anyone, yet the only time anybody has gotten on my ass it was "Daisy/Jane" who thought she was better qualified than I am to raise my children.
I do hope I didn't disappoint you!
It is - I take my vitamins!
I'm guessing you won't miss it if you unsub, so why torture yourself?
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There isn't a woman in here who wouldn't agree that nursing a three-year old child is a cracked-brain thing to do. I'm the only one who was honest enough to say so.
It's no surprise, believe me, that you are "Gemini's" (aka Ruth's) greatest supporter forher borderline incestuous (certainly emotionally incestuous) method of relating to her adult son and habit of bragging about same.
(And congrats to your kid who, apparently and miraculously, got over food allergies on the stroke of three. And may his shrink bills always be smaller than the National Debt.)
You lose. I know plenty of mothers who have continued to nurse their 3 and 4-year-old children, and the kids turned out just fine. If my children hadn't self-weaned when they did I likely would have been nursing them until they were 3 also. Try speaking only for yourself instead of deciding that you know what everyone is thinking.
Give me an example of this "incestuous" method of relating to her adult son. You could probably say the same about me if I shared my relationship with my adult son with the group here, yet I'm doing absolutely nothing that any other good mother would do; supporting my son while he's going to college.
Actually, it's not that unusual for babies and toddlers to have reactions to foods and "outgrow" them. My brother's allergies went away as he got older.
You seem to equate long-term (by your definition) nursing with increased psychiatric problems when there's absolutely no evidence for this. Show me your credentials, please, before making such claims.
Based only on what I've seen of your attitude here, I suspect that any child of yours has a psych diagnosis longer than I am tall, and I'm
5'9".
Sweetie, I've seen the best go OT on people, and you have no idea what's out there.
Your problems are your problems. Too bad your mother was so uptight she put you on the bottle. What a pity boobs are so sexualized that even most owners of boobs can't view boobs as what they are.
How do you figure that? I don't defend anyone but I do try to point out your shortcomings, however. Intolerance is the one that shows up most clearly via the written word. Maybe you need a sensitivity training sort of course, eh?
No, he didn't. He did wean himself before his fourth birthday and he eats pretty much everything any other kid does with a few exceptions. Since you asked, I'll tell you he's jumping from 2nd to 4th this year. He spent most of his time in the 3rd grade classroom this past year it won't be a major hassle for anybody. Nobody in my household sees a shrink, I'm sorry you misread something I typed three or four years ago - reading comprehension loss is maybe related to senility I guess.
Also since you asked, it wasn't thyroid cancer, merely a fast and nasty case of Graves' onset. Radiation therapy is slow and I don't like dealing with the side effects. But you'll notice I only mentioned it because you asked.
Yep, and nobody forces you to read it, do they?
Ditzy Joke, you mean?
You see? I don't get offended by your show of ignorance and bile. I treat you the way you deserve to be treated: as somebody of low intelligence and a bigoted world view, somebody who can't conceive of any way of organizing a family relationship except a dysfunctional one. It must be hard for you to know that no one will mourn your passing.
PS - please tell the attendants at your "retreat home" that you're just a nuisance, not a menace. I'll even write a note if you need one.
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Oh for Pete's sake! Whether anyone on here nurses their child or not has no effect on your personal life. You've expressed your opinion, so just DROP IT. Bienchat et les chats
Who said the child was 4yo? I said he weaned himself before he turned four. That gives us...let's see, what that a leap year? Nope...So that gives us a possible 364 days on which he weaned.
BTW, most non-Western societies usually wean their kids between ages
4-5. Since I was born east of the Mississippi I guess I qualify as a non-Westerner, but we didn't quite make it so now I've been disqualified again.
"Gross" is a relative term. I think going to the gynecologist late in the day is pretty gross because the entire floor - even the elevator - smells like pussy and I don't particularly care for the odor. I think having to clean cat barf off the floor is gross, but I do it because nobody else will in this house no matter how much I bitch about it. I think sushi is gross but I know people pay lots of money for the privelege of eating it. I can assure you that sticking my arm into a sheep's uterus to grab the lamb and help it on it's journey into the world was REALLY gross, but it had to be done or I'd be out two sheep. Scraping up the neighbor's weenie dog earlier this year after some schmuck in a riceburner ran it over was also gross, but fortunately the poor thing was dead so I didn't have *that* to deal with as well.
And in every case the word "disgusting" is really a better fit than the word "gross, don't you think?
If providing nourishment for a child is disgusting in your world then your problems run deep indeed.
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Well, no. "Most" do not. There are societies in which adults take sticks and dig raw grubs for dinner and I'll bet that's not what you chose for yourself last evening. Why should a defenseless child be subjected to (imagined) societal norms that separate him so from the society he needs to try to grow up in? Coming up on fourth birthday is a time to be playing in the yard with one's little friends, and snacking on sandwiches and apple juice, not off somewhere sucking on mommie's titties.
In every way, yes. A perfect word for what you did to that child. As is "abusive." And here's a third word: "Amazing." Amazing that you boast of it.
No, but I've tried it. When they're toasted properly a fat grub is actually pretty nice, but does need salt. I wouldn't want to eat it every day, but given a choice between foraging for bugs and eating sushi, I'll take bugs every time. I wouldn't eat a lot of things every day, but that doesn't mean they aren't worth eating. Many things are too much work for every-day eating, many things are unavailable where I live. That doesn't mean I haven't tried it tho. Pretty much anything can be made edible if you're willing to make the effort.
Darling, I have news for you. The "recommendation" for early weaning happened about the time of the Industrial Revolution. It was a recommendation made by male doctors at the behest of male factory owners who knew they could pay women lower wages than men for equivalent work, but only if the women didn't have kids on the boob. And hell, let the women bring their kids to the factory, we'll work the kids too and for yet lower wages than the women were paid.
So take your scruples, take your so-called morals, do a little research and admit to yourself that you're a prude who couldn't tolerate the thought of a walking, talking person nursing at your breast and that you popped the kids early to suit your own sense of morals and not out of any desire to give them a "better life" by helping them "fit in" with their bottle-fed peers.
Did I mention that my son is skipping grade 3? His classmates who were bottlefed on soy formula (I've known a lot of them since their mothers were small) are falling behind academically.
Coincidence? I think not.
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Changed subject header to more accurately convey the fact that this discussion is OT. Some of our newsreaders won't allow us to see the entire subject heading, and this conversation keeps getting downloaded to me when I'd rather not engage in it.
Who?? Your son (if you have one)? Yep, from what I've read of you so far, any child of yours is indeed a basket case with a mother like you. You've come in here and accused Gem of committing "incest" with her son, and now you lash at Wooly and call her a child abuser because she chose to nurse her son longer than you think is proper. My youngest was almost 2 before she weaned herself completely. My guess is that's too long for you, also.
Get a life, woman. Educate yourself on these things. And please give evidence when accusing people you hardly know of crimes, lest you find yourself on the receiving end of similar or worse accusations yourself.
Hi Daisy I don't know why I've been reading all this rubbish. Maybe I had nothing better to do. I hate to resort to name calling but it seams to me that you should talk to some professional from the mental health kind. You are a nut job girl. Do you have some kind of agenda? Go and find some help or shut up. You are trying to poison something that is the most natural attitude for a mother to have. Boobs were made to feed babies and not to please men. You have to take your mind out of the gutter. Try it, I heard it helps if you want to get along with people Stop making a nuisance of yourself. What a sad character you make!! Under all that poison and slime you are probably a nice person.Go find other heads to pick nits on. Have a nice day if you can.
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Daisy , I am no Doctor , but have to do a lot of reading writing and work on my own eating /diet methods, Not EVERY person can get All the Vitamins they need from their regular food, sometimes one need some help in Pills form ... Some places lack something in the water [hence added Flouride etc to tooth paste or to local water suply, some Veggies have been `palyed` around with till they lost not only their taste[s] , but also some of the Vitamins... I can eat here any amount of Citrus, but in other countries one can buy them only in small amounts ,,, We aren`t near Noreen , so we don`t know what she really needs. In cases of health matters each should Bless their Good health and try to avoid getting ill. mirjam
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