no food by mail?

Jan 27, 2004 94 Replies

notice: reposted from another group for information:



This was in the paper yesterday. No more food from outside the US by mail?



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No food by mail? Please, Mr. Postman! Prior to his departure from England, Robert Hegland of Falls Church, Va., looked at his bulging bags and asked a friend to mail him his excess luggage, including a few sealed bottles of dried herbs and spices, and one of whiskey.



Later the friend called: The U.K. post office wouldn't mail the package because a new FDA rule prohibits the mailing of any food or drink to the UnitedStates as of Dec.12, unless the sender had filed "prior notice" with the the U.S. agency and gotten permission.



It's part of a law to prevent bioterrorism. But surely the rule must be intended for importers, not a guy with a jar of spices. Nope. The way the law is written, it allows no minimums and no exemption for personal use, says FDA spokeswoman Deborah Ralston. The only exception is for homemade food "made in the sender's personal residence."



Approval must be sought no more than five days before the package is to arrive, and no less than two hours before arrival if the package is arriving by land, four if by air, or eight if by sea. More details are at

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Man, I don't know about you, but I feel so much safer.


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Thanks for the warning because I need to mail a couple of bags of bott boi noodles to a friend in California. This just means I keep my mouth shut at the post office about what's inside of it.

Ya never know when an Amish food product could be used as a weapon.............

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Oh geez, talk about paranoia. It's nonsense like that that makes me think the terrorists really won this whole mess after all.

KarenK

They are now also *fingerprinting* every foreign national arriving in the US. Of course, they don't HAVE fingerprints from bin Laden or any other uncaptured terrorist to compare these prints with, so it's difficult to see the rationale.

Celine

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:38:14 -0500, Lee S. Billings wrote (in message ):

They're also fingerprinting middle schoolers. A week ago, we got parental permisssion slips to have our children fingerprinted, photographed and videotaped, so the police could keep the information on file, "in case your child gets lost."

Yeah, like they keep separate databases of "teenagers who might get lost" and "teenagers we think commited some crime."

For what it's worth, five children at the school had their parents decline this wonderful opportunity. Mine was one of them.

Kathy N-V

Good for you, Kathy!

How would anyone expect to FIND a missing child with their fingerprints? Or a VIDEO?? That's a really poor attempt :-\

Yeah, this sucks bigtime. Now I can't get Kindereggs from a Canadian vendor for Easter. Read the FDA regs and on this and it's amazing any food gets across the border. Wonder how many small importers (here) and exporters (there) are going out of business because of this?

For another look at stupid "protection" - see how WallyWorld is helping wage the war on drugs:

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Val

Which is one reason i haven't really felt like making any trips into the US lately. Although the Sate of Texas already has my prints from when I got my drivers licence there - yeesh! If that doesn't make you feel like guilty until proven innocent!

susan in canada

Kyla, Actually most of the time we used the fingerprints after a body was found, and the video was shown on the tv.

I must've just got through in the nick of time; I posted some Australian dried spices to a friend over that way just before Christmas...

Audrey

If you're a private citizen, and the item isn't obvious when wrapped, you can of course prevaricate about what's in the package. Do you have a friend in Canada who could get the eggs and ship them to you?

Celine

So That means no more chocolate from the UK. One of my swapping powers gone. Shirley

In article , vj writes

I see one ray of sunshine in this otherwise stupid law. Every year my in laws send us a big box of junk food. Neither of us needs 40 lbs of junk food. We have tried to ask them nicely not to send it but it falls on deaf ears, and it get eatten and given away, and given...and given.... Now we can tell them its against our laws unless you jump thru hoops and dance in red tape and maybe, just maybe they wont send any!!!! I will miss the coffee crisps tho. Diana

I find this so outrageous I don't have words. That damn Shrub is downright unAmerican!

Tina

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Christina Peterson" :

]I find this so outrageous I don't have words. That damn Shrub is downright ]unAmerican!

i think so too. i just know there can be a lot of foodstuff shipped between members here and wanted to let them know they might want to "mislabel" their packages.

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They'll probably x-ray it so they'll know anyway..

There is also the reason of imported diseases and pests to consider - yes, even in herbs!

Mavis

This is bl**dy ridiculous!! I would decline too..

Good on you Kathy!!

Mavis

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 0:09:07 -0500, Debbie B wrote (in message ):

But taking fingerprints, photos and videos of every middle school aged child in the city seems like total overkill. I declined on the exceedingly slim statistical chance that DD gets killed (G*d forbid) and that the dental records, video and photos we already have are insufficient.

Further questioning of DD and her friends says that the photos were of the exact format used in mug shots. The child was instructed to stand in front of a board with various heights marked off on it, then photos were taken of the full face, left profile and right profile. After hearing that, I was doubly glad that I declined this "service."

Kathy N-V

Yeah, a friend refused to have it done and they did nothing about it. Apparently they're also fingerprinting people on exit in someplaces too. This is truly ridiculous.

Charlie.

LOL don't worry, California only SEEMS like another country. State to state isn't an import.

Of course, I break the laws semiannually, when I go back to PA and mail myself a dozen bottles of Nissely Vineyards wine and half a case of Yuengling Porter.

Karen the lush

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