OT: Forgiving/Letting Go and junk

If I give a joint xmas/birthday gift to someone, it is because it's too expensive to give for one single event -- I simply can't afford it. And I will give it on the person's birthday, with a little trinket for them on xmas so they don't feel sad.

Like the spectacular stuffed-animal rocking horsies I got my nephews (1 each) one year! WOW, those things even whinnied. They were KILLER. Worth the combo gift. (They got other gifties, and actually more than one @, on December

24th....)

But then, I'm a gift-giving ho. I love to give gifties. :-D !!! ~~ Sooz

I want some BROWNIES in the worst way. (No, not up my butt) ~~ Sooz

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I bet if we lived next door to each other, we could kick ourselves into gear somehow. ~~ Sooz

Aw you're SO CUTE. :-*

Does that mean you're frigid and have a messy home or that you the farthest thing from fridgid but have a spotless house? (Celebate out of choice does not count as frigid.)

Well, that's the worst way I can think of to have brownies.

Hot and clean!

Becki "In between the moon and you, the angels have a better view of the crumbling difference between wrong and right." -- Counting Crows

Joann -- I laughed so loud, you have no idea. Good one!

Becki "In between the moon and you, the angels have a better view of the crumbling difference between wrong and right." -- Counting Crows

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Marisa2 :

]the case of ADD without hyperactivity, a spacey ]child).

trust me - that's me. and johnny. and jamie. and jeannie. but when i was in school [back in the 50s] it didn't exist as a diagnosis, i don't think.

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Sooz, you've got this whole butt/turd thing going on tonight. Hhhhmmm...

Did you know that there are many "scratch" recipes out there for the Easy Bake Oven now? I was tempted to get one for DD this last Christmas, but we got a convection toaster oven instead (for the whole family...LOL), and we use some of the recipes. They're quite tasty.

That's what I figured!

Is that in a good way ?

Stephanie

That has been increasing frustrating for me as Depression slows me down. Now I simply cop to it. State it as a fact, not a flaw. I've been kind of forced to live by my own rules, largely because of Depression. Which is another reason why my mental health is much better now than it was before my Depression.

Tina

I can only prove the obverse. Highly sexed women (at least one) have messy homes.

Tina

I'm not sure what the traits are. "Base" appetites (as is base chakra). Sexual energy. Passion and excitement. Are Scorpios strong nesters?

Tina

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:04:27 -0400, Dr. Sooz wrote (in message ):

How sad. My mother dynamic was difficult as well, but it was mostly because we were so unable to draw lines between who was an adult, and who was a kid, and who owes respect and obedience to the other, if any.

I'd worked since I was eleven, and was self-supporting since I was no older than thirteen. By the time I was fifteen, I was paying a significant portion of the family's living expenses. In my mom's eyes, all of this was normal and acceptable. Her parents farmed out all the older children to various farms as labor, with their earnings being sent directly to Oma and Opa. That's the way they got back on their feet and managed to keep their farm in the economic mess after WWII.

However, in my eyes, my adult responsibilities should have meant a corresponding amount of freedom as well. This led to any number of disagreements and more, since my mother has always felt that children owe their parents lifelong obedience and support. To be fair, she's good to her parents, but demands a lot more from us.

I've chalked up all that stuff to a cultural divide: my mom, no matter how long she lives in the US, will never have the mindset of a US born person. Same for me - as much time as I spend immersed in German culture, I'm clearly an American.

Fortunately, I've managed to draw an imaginary line between the Mom of my (non-existant) childhood and the less stressed, less fearful, not abused Mom of today. I can be friends with that Mom, even though we don't agree on everything. That mom is eccentric, but a good person and I like and respect her. I get a lot of respect in return, but in a worried mother type of way.

I wonder how my adult relationship with Manda is going to pan out. Since I've always spoken to her as an equal, I think that will color the way we treat one another. In my mind, the biggest gotcha for Manda is that she is an only child, and dealing with elderly parents without the support of siblings is going to be lousy. We've preplanned as much as we can, but there are some things that have to wait.

Great thread. I really am enjoying the mental examination it's caused me to undertake.

Kathy N-V

I don't think our parents had the chance to explore their lives like we get. I do feel sad for those who needed to...

Mavis

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Kathy N-V :

]I wonder how my adult relationship with Manda is going to pan out. ]Since I've always spoken to her as an equal, I think that will color ]the way we treat one another.

in my mind, your biggest problems may be on their way. the day she thinks she's old enough and you don't. the peer pressure gets worse as they get older, etc. Manda has a GOOD head on her shoulders, but the 'teen' years were really rough between both of my girls and me.

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