OT: chronic fatigue study results

I think you are confusing cause and effect. Probably Karen would also call her acquaintances "angels" too if they were *real* friends and helped out.

Um, I'm considered to be quite high maintenance by many, although I do have my good qualities!

;-)

I don't see how being sick and NEEDING help equals "sense of entitlement."

How do you know?

For example, one of the reasons my ex is my ex is that he didn't take care of me when I was bedridden for approx. 6 weeks in late 1989-90. I would say that HE had the sense of entitlement (therefore he should always be on the *receiving* end of help). I was sick for approx. 6 monthes in the late 1990s but received plenty of help and emotional support from my current partner. Yet, I am the same person now as I was in 1989 and 1996-7.

Erin

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Museumbitch
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Especially those who have no helpmate ( life companion, husband/wife, significant other, children on the same continent etc) at home. Ruby Who is very very fortunate to have a husband who will cook her a good meal when he is home on the weekends.

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Stitcher

It's my experience.

Poor you. If you are the same person as you were in 1989 maybe it's time to grow a little.

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Jangchub

John`s grandmother always maintained that you had to have wars and epidemics so that the world didn`t get tooovercrowded! Hasn`t worked that way lately, has it? Actually Religion isn`t just ONE tool - it`s always been the major excuse for a conflict.

Pat P

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Pat P

Gosh - you soon learned to speak clicheish, Erin! LOL! ;-)) Still, many cliches are none the less true for being cliches.

Pat P

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Pat P

If you are referring to the above, that was written by "jangchub" not by me.

Erin

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Museumbitch

No - obviously I was referring to your comment about being the same person you were in 1989! LOL!

Pat P

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Pat P

I'm afraid I just don't understand why that is funny or cliched. I have not undergone any Jekyll and Hyde personality changes.

Erin

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Museumbitch

People change, so slowly that sometimes the change isn't noticed by the person who is changing. We all grow and learn from our experiences, or at least in a perfect world we all do.

Maybe you don't feel different, but I'm sure that your views of different things have changed since the 80's. Just think of the clothes you wore back then, do you still think they are as cool today? Probably not. Do you still have exactly the same tastes in food, music, books, television programs, movies? If not, it's a sign that you are not exactly the same person you were back then.

I know that I started having children in 1990, and nothing has changed me more as a person than raising my girls. Hitting my 40's has forced me to realize my body can't do what it did when I was in my 20's, this realization has caused me to rethink who I am now. I know that the

1989 me would never have believed that I'd need bifocals the moment I opened my eyes in the morning, or that I'd think a good day was a day when I woke up without some part of my body hurting. I loved romance novels back in the 80's but find them boring now (the fire did me the favor of removing all my old ones from my shelves). These days I prefer a good spy thriller, action mystery, or silly sci-fi fantasy book (Rereading the Terry Pratchett discworld books at the moment).

That's what Pat and Vic are talking about. Most people do change over time, and those that don't change at all come across to others as pretty pathetic.

Caryn

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crzy4xst

Then I must look like a complete dork! :-)

My tastes have stayed about the same since I was about 5. As for 1989 and now:

skinny goth to chubby goth (due to thyroid disfunction) Keeshond dog to collie dog (due to Keeshond developing cancer and having to be put to sleep) read/watched sci-fi and history and ethnology in English to read/watch sci-fi, history and ethnology in Swedish as well I'm sure you get the idea. . .

Erin

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Museumbitch

I'm sure you are not a dork! lol

I have always read light sci-fi/fantasy, just used to prefer different authors back then compared to now! But I must say I have totally outgrown the old bodice ripper romances I loved back then!

Comes to tastes in dogs....well...there you have me. I love bassets, did as a kid, do today. Unfortunately, my dh doesn't like them (they drool, you see) and with kids we ended up with two golden retrievers. I like to joke with a friend of mine that when we are old widows (hopefully decades from now) we will live together and raise bassets and cats (she likes them, but her dh is allergic).

I hope that your health stays good, that you continue to enjoy your stitching and reading. It's a good life!

Caryn

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crzy4xst

Come to think of it I probably DO wear similar clothes to those I wore in the eighties - it was only 20 years ago after all. Come to think of it I probably still HAVE some of them! Never have been one for fashion - not in the past 30 odd years, at least. I go for non-dating COMFORT (pants and sweater or tee-shirt) unless there`s a special occasion!

We all have our aches and pains - a good day is one when the sun`s shining, or the kids or friends drop in, or even an unexpected day to ourselves with no-one dropping in and the phone not ringing - never mind the aches and pains - they`re soon forgotten or just ignored. When people ask "How are you?" they don`t REALLY want to hear you go off onto a list of complaints every time!

Most days are good - at least better than the alternative! I always say that I`m still in my twenties inside - I just can`t climb trees any more!

To clarify it for you - you made comments about not speaking "Cliche-ese", when your statement in the next post that "I am the same person as I was in

1989" IS, in fact, a cliche!!!

Pat P

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Pat P

Today is a good day I hope!

Despite a trip to the doctor with middle dd (sigh, strep going around the H.S.) things here have been quiet. Took a personal sanity day, now that I get paid days off! Got to crochet, clean, do laundry, played with the dogs, watched some shows off the TiVo I've been meaning to get to for a while. So, good day here!

Caryn

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crzy4xst

Erin,

It is a losing battle! You can be as rational and reasonable as you like, but you will never get Victoria aka Jangchub, ever give in an inch. Sort of like a tug-of-war with a mule! It is a waste of effort, and gives rise to a lot of annoyance and frustration. I gave up arguing a while back, and only skim the posts. No wonder my BP and mood are better LOLOL!

you do get an "A" for trying, though!

Gillian

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Gill Murray

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