9/11, sewing, and off topic thoughts

My recent note about covering the amps that belong to my DGS did sound a bit strange, did it not? Anyway, I meant I would ask my DD if he might like having the same type covers as his uncle. I know nothing about covering guitar cases as most of the guitars DS have are Rics and they have shiny metal-looking cases. Emily Emily

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That sure was 'any help'. I happen to have a drill press and can imagine what you mean! Thanks again, Tom! :-D

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Trish Brown

On 2004-10-01 cjh24k$q19$ snipped-for-privacy@reader2.nmix.net said: >Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles.sewing,alt.sewing > snipped-for-privacy@cybermesa.net wrote: >> Just examined my (cheap) guitar case. The catches are held on >>with prongs on one part, prong-rivets on the other. I'd remove >>the catches by straightening the prongs, do my covering job, then >>drill rivet holes in the pieces without them, and rivet or bolt >>them back on. If bolting, use aircraft-type self-locking nuts, >>or glue the nuts from backing off with Loctite, cover them with >>suitable protection for the instrument. I recommend getting >>drilling help from someone with a drill press, not doing it with >hand tools. >

Tom

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twillmon

Why is it people don't see the truth until it gets personal? If it is your right to choose, than is it not my right to choose, also? Of course it is my right to choose if you can choose- so what if I choose to abort the rest of your life? When is legalized murder ever right?

It is absolutely the responsibility of both men and women not get women pregnant- neither is exempt from blame. Some research about guys in High School - they think of sex every 8 seconds. There is such a thing as adoption and alot of guys do pay child support, even women pay child support.

I'm not a gay hater or basher. Everybody makes wrong choices for whatever reasons, generally there not simple choices, elsewise most wrong choices would not be made. Instead of taking a word that is thousands of years old that has a narrow meaning, as all words have to seperate this from that so we understand each other when we speak. If the gays were smart they would make up a new word and attach any meaning they want to it and say it is equal to the word marriage. A recent research in the Netherlands came up with a gay marriage lasting on average 1 1/2 years. The part that bothers me about this research is 34% see nothing wrong with sex outside of marriage. Gays socity is very powerful and persuaive- do you want sex out of wedlock added to the definition of marriage as normal? It will be added sooner than you think. What this means is your husband can say the definition of marriage is I can have sex with you and thousands of other women- that's quite a licsence. Your husband might not agree with that of marriage, but your grandchildren will grow up with whatever new additions to marriage that get put there. A small research in Seattle showed gays having

20 sex partners a night 7 days a week- how much sex do you have with your husbands a night 7 days a week? Maybe same sex sex is not satisfying? People from around the world from all cultures for thousands of years notice there is a difference between married people and non married people that only happens between a man and woman; if that difference has been named marriage from all these cultures, even those that don't even know about reading and writing, why don't you know? This incudes other cultures with other religions. So, the Christian belief is not the only one that depicts marriage between man and woman. Even people with no religious beliefs notice a difference that never happens between a man and man or woman and woman. Even the shrinks dictionary says there is a difference between married and none married man and woman when haveing sex that can create a baby- damage between the non married happens. Has the Western World become Lost in a Sea of Knowlege?

So vote for Kerry and Edwards. A medical business here in town fired within the last month or two 40 some doctors because of liability insurance got to high (now there is one doctor with that business). Edwards made his millions sueing doctors which buy liability insurance to pay the sue price. So, now, why is health insurance premiums going up? Even though the Republicans run both House's and the White House the Democrates have blocked everything to put caps on how much Lawyers can sue. In Europe there are stick laws about sueing and practicly none in the USA. Recent, one research found that on average the client make off with 27% of the sue job; 40+% went to the sue lawyer, and the rest went to fees. Some cases belong in crimial court not sue court, at least it should go through crimal court first.

John

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If you are going to post this stuff I really suggest you substanstiate it with links, documentation and REAL information, not just the numbers that came out of some propaganda pamphlet you have laying around. An example of documented information might be a link to the actual report or abstract in a scientific journal devoted to research.

penny

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small change

Snip a lot of off-topic hateful garbage by John.

PLONK!

iris

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I.E.Z.

i think your statement is terribly sexist and offensive. Has it ever occurred to you that except in case of rape, the woman is equally responsible? I think you owe us men an apology.

Until she calls up the state social services agency, and has a portion of his income that they deem to be appropriate (which may have nothing to do with what he can actually afford) removed directly from his paycheck for the next 18 to 21 years, and he goes to jail if he can't afford to pay (for example because of losing his job).

I think you really need to give serious thought to why you have so much hostility about men and how you'll deal with it.

Tom Farrell

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This is a sewing group and I do enjoy reading Toms sewing advise and it would be nice to see some of his work. So I guess I shouldn't write about other things here.

No relation to the movie director/producer

The cowboy shirt I've been planning on making - the design cut across the bottom of the front and back yokes I've finally decided how I'm going to draw that. So, now I need to draw up a pattern. Well, I haven't decided how I will be doing the sleeves yet. After that I'll know how much cloth to get. What do you recommend for the yoke? One color, or pattern on the cloth like maybe checkered?

The cotton twill pants need to be basted together for a try on. The waistband there are so many ways to sew them on. A couple days ago I decided to go with premade waistband facing, instead of making my own.

The class coat that I'm making from Tailor and Cutter class is almost done. They have the simpliest method of doing the bottom of sleeves that I have ever seen for a suit coat. Bespoke tailored coats have thousands of hand stitchs in them- the collar is completely hand sewn on. After the sleeves are done it will be pressing and buttonholes and buttons. After that is the vest. Then how to changes patterns to fit every adult male. Be nice to take there class on making ladies suits; the patterns are a little different and a few of the sewing methods are different. The jackets that europeans wear for horse riding are very nice jackets to look at, so nice to make. The Cutter classes are a good idea, too; a great deal more instruction goes into measureing, drawing patterns and fittings. The Internet tailor class has taken much longer than I though it would; but it gives me lots of time to think about the lessons, make practice pockets, collars, and redo slopy work. It would be nice sometimes to talk directly to the instructor and see demonstrations and not make all the guesses I end up making when the lesson is not clear, plus seeing what the best looks like. After putting thousands of hand stitches into this jacket I see why these coats are so much nicer than store bought. The comfort, the ease of fitting, the freedom of movement and how it keeps the garment looking nice compare peg clothes with the fusibles and completely machine sewn.

Your a good peace keeper Beth.

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Dear Tom,

You get the last word.

I guess we should keep this as a sewing newsgroup and not something else.

You have a web site and I would like to see some of your garment making work. You sound very knowlege with sewing and would have to do good work. Maybe you could be a fashion designer and make more money than working for somebody else.

What is the difference between a golf shirt and a polo shirt? Is it just the cloth or are the patterns somehow different? I could never understand if there the same shirt and why they have two different names. Maybe golfers want a shirt with golf as part of there name and the same for polo players. They both have the placet down the front aways. Collars seem the same. Sleeves seem the same. I guess the only difference is polo shirts have taped seams because the game is ruff. Although golfers do bend there clubs and heave them into the lake.

John

(ps. have you seen Kate Dicey's nice red coats?)

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People with multiple sclerosis used to be put in mental hospitals. Not all that long ago, either.

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I know those things happen. I believe there is enough evidence that sometimes it works the other way around, too (if this worked for everything who would go to a medical (MD) Dr.?) I enjoy debates. I think there fun when people can agreeably disagree. A person can learn alot in debates about the other side. You can spend years in research and not learn as much as one can in one debate. In a debate the otherside will try to do there finest. You can ask direct question, lay out ideas, and opinions to see what comes back; in research you can't do this all the time. Some people don't like this debate in this ng so I decided to stop my side of the debate. Tom's fine. He has some good answers.

So what do you think would look good for a cowboy shirt yoke? Plain, pasily, checkered, something else? This might be used for the cuffs, too. I'm also curious about color combinations. Suggestions are welcomed.

John

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I used to have one I loved the look: solid color body and sleeves, small plaid for the yokes and cuffs, cut on the bias.

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You two please take your discussion off this newsgroup. "Tom Farrell" snipped-for-privacy@tomfarrell.org wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com...

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Jean D Mahavier

Thought about that, but then thought it might weaken the shirt putting the yoke on the bias. It would certainly look nice.

John

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Western shirts often (usually? always?) use the yoke as a decorative, rather than functional, part of the garment. It's assembled separately and top-stitched onto the shirt. So, a bias yoke wouldn't harm anything.

My experience has been that most quality western shirts (and I used to be quite fond of them, so I had many back before I became a city guy) are all one fabric, although some parts may be on the bias. The few I had that had contrast fabric, the primary fabric was a stripe or plaid, and the *accent* fabric was a solid, in a color that matched at least one of the colors of the primary fabric.

I've recently developed a like of corduroy again for some reason. I used to love it for pants, now it's as an accent fabric. I have a RTW jacket that is cotton gabardine on the outside, poly fleece on the inside, and some details including the inside pocket are cotton corduroy... everything being a uniform shade of grey. I think it's really great, and I've been thinking about making some shirts with corduroy accent fabric, perhaps a western shirt.

John, I've misplaced the original text, but you asked about golf shirts versus polo shirts. Golf shirts have woven body fabric and are generally a solid color, while polo shirts are knit fabric and have horizontal stripes. They're otherwise fairly interchangable. Depending on the amount of ease, you can sometimes use a pattern designed for one to make the other. (Well, you can always do it, but the resulting garment may or may not turn out to be the size desired.)

Tom Farrell

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You mean no shoulder seam - the front and back yoke(s) is one piece?

Your RTW jacket is a unique combination of fabrics.

John

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<Did you know that the national firefighters union has been stating its opposition to Bush, and that fire departments have refused (despite repeated requests) to pose for photo ops with Bush, since 9/11 because he has CUT the budget for firefighters equipment since 9/11?

Tom Farrell>

Forest fire and city (local fire hall) I think are two different groups. I oftern wonder were state gov's should have rights over Fed gov's, therefore Fed money does not go to everything in the States, nor responsible, but tending to other things.

Another thing, all Presidents are out trying to get relected when they can. First time I noticed that I thought it was terrible, but Carter did it, Reagan did it, Bush did it, Clinton did it, and so it goes on.

About mothers milk haveing fire retardent in it- were does all the retardent come from? Is it in clothes, bedding, furniture, carpets? How safe are we with these and other chemicals absorption? Cotton in the 60's and back was hard to iron, nowadays they put so much stuff into cloth (one so it does not wrinkle)- what are we wearing besides cloth?

John

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They may be in some areas, they are not in others.

Beyond that, I was speaking of the attitudes of firefighters as a group... and believe me, firefighters tend to see themselves as part of a brotherhood of firemen, no matter whether they're full time professionals or part time volunteers, forest or city. They know that if there's a major emergency they may be called upon to fly across the country to cover each other's backs fighting a major forest fire. They know that any one of them would walk into a burning building to save someone.

I have an old friend who is a fireman. I've known him since first grade, and for a long time thought he was something of a flighty person. When we were finishing high school, he became a volunteer firefighter, but I figured it was something he was just picking up as a kind of intense hobby, that he'd drop it in a moment.

In April of 2001, he came to my home to spend the night before we took a weekend vacation together in New York. He'd stopped along the way to pick up a piece of equipment, and showed it to me over dinner. It was a little box that emitted an improbably loud noise, to be worn on the outside of his uniform. I couldn't quite get the point... until he explained that it was so that when he's inside a burning house and it collapses on top of him, his fellow firemen would be able to hear where he was to dig him out.

I realized then that I'd done my friend wrong for 20 years, not giving him the respect he was due. Here was a man who would calmly walk into a burning house, knowing full well it might collapse on top of him, to help someone in need.

It's also why I'm so upset about Bush cutting funding for firefighters. These are good people like my friend, getting killed for lack of equipment. (not my friend, I'm thinking about the 9/11 firefighters.)

Well, I know the anti-stain clothes that Levis is coming out with use microfiber polyester mixed with cotton... A lot of other treatments wash out.

Tom

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