pattern for this dress?

The grocery store asks for your phone number if you forgot your card, and my daughter just started giving our number but switching the last two digits. Works for us. *giggle*

Awww, now that's really nice, Melinda Thanks!

Beverly

Beverly

Joanne, when the Internet first became widely available, the fastest growing segment of my ISP services was the crafts areas, which were populated almost entirely, at first, by women. It took the companies by surprise, too, for all the incorrect assumptions you mention.

Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati

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You just have to remember what you used if you ever forget your card and have to key it in!

Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati

BEI Design wrote:

For those members of this group who are very computer savvy I have a couple of questions. Now I only see this (I think) when I use the reply button. And of course we do want to use the reply button when we are responding to anothers posting. But it doesn't always appear, why? Different programs? Different settings in the individual's program? Can the individual eliminate it? Or does the person have to, if they want the privacy, cut(snip)it from the message every time s/he replies? Or is there some other aspect I've missed? I'm barely computer literate, I don't have the time to investigate my computers' programs.

AK in PA

I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. I *think* Melinda and I were discussing those shopper cards issued by many of the supermarket chains (Safeway, Albertson's, Kroger's) which enable you to get a discount *only* by using the card. They issue you a card with a bar code on the back, and just scan it. If you don't have your card, they ask for identifying info. Since I didn't provide any in the first place, I don't have any to give them, I just forgo the discount that day.

Beverly

If I understand your question, you are asking about the information shown at the *top* of this (and many other) posts. Right? Well, according to the headers on your message, you are using "X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869" to post to Usenet (which I also use). Outlook Express, and many other newsreaders, inserts that information, *and* quotes the message you are *responding* to, just as it has in this reply. In your quoted text, it precedes each line with ' > ' to help readers determine what text is quoted, and what text is the reply. I chose to delete some of the rest of your message, but I could have left it *all* in.

If you create a new thread (a new subject, starting a new string of messages), there is no identification text created at the top.

Sometimes, people use google groups for newsgroups, and the protocol there is different. It does NOT quote the previous message by default.

There is a very good Posting FAQ for this newsgroup, posted occasionally by Penny S. I will quote it here:

======================================== Welcome Sewists and new posters! Here are some guidelines to posting to the sewing newsgroups. In case you are wondering where you are and how you got here, you are in a newsgroup, AKA "usenet" which is a part of the internet that has been around much much longer than the www, which it is not a part of. These groups are not moderated.

This information is protocol and etiquette that has been in use for over

Be precise in your requests for information. If you are seeking help on a technique, or are having a problem, the more information you give, the more someone will be likely to be able to help you with your request. Put some thought into your header: "problem" or "I need help" are much more likely to be ignored than a specific header such as " help: facing has wrinkles" or "where can I find fine linen".

There is a "what machine should I buy" FAQ.

NO Advertising. NONE. No commercial ads, no auction notices, no ebay announcements, no "for sale" private party ads, no links to a commercial site; nothing. There are marketplace groups for ads.(rec.crafts.textiles.marketplace) Ever been to a Usenet group that has more ads than posts? This also includes one line posts announcing commercial sites. And yes, this is a grey area, but in past discussions the overwhelming majority are in agreement that all ads need to go to the marketplace. If you would like to know more about advertising onUsenet, here's a link link to it: Advertising on Usenet: How To Do It, How Not To Do It

Please don't argue with us about it should be OK for **you** to do it.

Edit your replies. If you are replying to a post that is rather lengthy, use your editing functions to pare the message down. If you reply without leaving a portion of the request in, and the header isn't clear, many people will not know what you are posting about. If the subject changes in the course of a reply, change your header so that people will know what your post is about.

The sewing newsgroups are pretty chatty. Keep in mind that not everyone may be interested in the non-sewing chatter about kids, cooking, pets, parenting, religion, whatever. It's polite to put an OT for OFF TOPIC in the header, either if the thread has "derailed" to not be about sewing anymore, or if it's obviously not sewing related.

Please do not top post: this is putting your anwwer above the comment you are replying to. It's hard to track the conversation when you do this.

This is a public forum, and an international one. There may be hundreds of people reading your posts. Many people have to pay for their download/online time by the minute which is the main reason for keeping headers concise and posts succinct. Also, don't assume that everyone is in the USA; they are not!!

No photos. This is not a binary group. Please post photos to the web and put up a link. NO HTML either, this is a text only forum.

Signature files: No more than 4 lines please. ( bandwidth again) If someone is a participant in the group, it is considered acceptable to list business information in the signature file. No "me-too ism": it's a waste of bandwidth. So is, "I know I saw something somewhere...."

Remember this is a public, unmoderated forum that reflects each of us as individuals. If someone's posts really drive you nuts on a regular basis, you can make them "go away" using a killfile. This is an option in most newsreader software that will block any posts by a specified sender. For the how on killfiles see: Killfile and Anti Troll FAQs at

Please don't ask for an email only reply. DL put it very well: "I don't normally send an email copy unless it's specifically requested, and I usually won't respond at all to someone who says, "I don't normally read this group, so please send me an email copy," but I don't mind at all sending a copy to someone who says, "I read this group regularly, but a lot of posts never make it to my server."

The difference is that the first person is basically saying, "I'm too busy and too important to be bothered with checking in the newsgroup for answers. I don't value your time in composing a response, and maybe spending some time doing research to answer the question, but _my_ time is too valuable to waste coming back here to read it. I also don't care if anyone else is able to benefit from the responses--just send me the email."

Many many people have contributed to this over the years. Thanks to all for links, editorial comments and input. ===========================================

HTH,

Beverly

You have to love it. Now, how to convince all those MBAs of that fact?

Yes, that's what I was talking about, too.

Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati

BEI Design wrote:

On the subject of top posting: I always do, but I also always strip out every bit of the conversation *except* that to which I am replying. That way anyone who wants to understand where my comment came from--as opposed to the wild blue yonder--can, but without the necessity of scrolling down five or six pages (which drives me crazy, frankly).

My two cents' worth, and you know have valuable that is! :)

Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati

Ok, I was confused by your reference to "...if you ever forget your card and have to key it in!" I didn't know there was a way to key in information.

Beverly

We have the Kroger grocery chain here, and just today when I went to the store and bought some of their "with Plus Card" specials, I realized I didn't have my little card. They have a way to type in your phone number, which then allows you to get the discount. Frankly, I think the whole thing is a scam, but they do send us coupons for $5-12 off grocery orders every month or so, which is very nice.

Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati

BEI Design wrote:

In my estimation, not a "scam" but yet another scheme thought up by "marketing" droids. You do actually get a discount that non-card holders don't get, but they (presumably) gather much information on your (and your neighbors) shopping habits. I like discounts as much as the Other Guy(TM), I'm just not willing to participate in that particular scheme, thankyewverymuch. There are several stores which will issue you a card to be used without requiring *any* personal information. I do use those.

Beverly

And, I, on the other hand, often interlace responses. ;-)

About US$ .02, right?

Beverly

I've used McCall's 8108 at various times and like the way it fits me, as well as others for whom I've made it. Emily

If that pattern is still down at the bottom of the trunk, it wouldn't do me any good, alas. I weighed 115 pounds at the time . . .

Mom made her a-lines out of all-cotton upholstery fabric. I bought an assortment of upholstery fabric when fabric.com was still Phoenix Textiles (there was a pre-existing uniform store that had the same name except they had or didn't have the "s" on the end -- I can't remember which was which, and neither could anybody else, so the new guy had to change.) but it was woven a lot tighter than the old stuff, so I made three into jackets, one into two pillowcases for the sofa, gave two or three to my nephew to make cases for his art, and the remaining two pieces are still hanging in my sewing-room closet. (I didn't think there were that many pieces in the assortment!)

I store woven fabrics clothespinned to hangers, if they aren't too heavy to suspend by one edge. That makes them much easier to find. Also makes it easier to keep the invoice pinned to the fabric. Which, alas, I didn't have the sense to start doing until I'd gotten very confused.

I *do* have every piece of every pattern marked with the date and fabric (or other ID) of every time it was used. One even has samples of the fabrics glued to the envelope so I'll know what I mean by "cot-lin twill" or "blk intrlck" when I'm hunting for the garments to judge whether I want to make any changes in the pattern.

Joy Beeson

I'm dyslexic -- I do a little bit of everything. LOL

Albertson's has self-check registers, and that's where you key in your phone number.