Happy Channukah

A lot of work - but it makes you the gracious hostess. I know it's hard. Once - the first time we had a dinner party with the friends with the strictly following dietary rules wife - I wasn't sure what to do. I think I wasn't properly prepared, and she ended up with tuna fish. She had salad and fruit, but I was embarassed about not being aware enough of what to do. After that I always was able to cook in a way so that she could eat - and if I bought separate fish for her, I could cook it with the disposable foil broilers, and we were all much happier. It's hard to know - so I just ask people what will work for them and then try to accommodate.

But, sometimes others just don't get it.

ellice

Well, in Brookly there would be. A lot of homes that are now single family started out as 2 family (up/down) homes. Nice that your boss is so aware and considerate. It's not hard to find Kosher staples, cookies, etc - it's the handling of them that would violate the kashreit so that's why the who opens the package, etc is important - I'd guess.

ellice

She must have seen the same movie...

I never heard of any of this not in matzo balls [ which i make myeslf ] nore in latkes,, it is interesting how many variations we have .. mirjam

I'm glad she'd eat it. I was told that disposable foil pans weren't acceptable because the oven itself was not kosher, so she couldn't eat anything that came out of it even if I cooked it in a pan that she brought from home.

So, OK, we socialized entirely at her house where she wasn't concerned about the place being contaminated by non-kosher foods and non-kosher cooks. No big deal.

As Mirjam has mentioned - different people have different standards of how strictly, extremely they interpret the rules. There are ways - cooking in foil on the grill as the foil is a barrier, and with new utensils, or clean, disposable.

I don't have trife in the house, so maybe thata made her feel it was okay. As I said - just depends.

Well that worked out.

ekkuce

You mean there are still kosher meat markets where you live. I don't keep kosher, but I know from one of my neighbors that she travels all the way to Palm Beach County to find a kosher market.

Lucille

Wonder who ekkuce is???

Gill

It's a secret code known only to those without nimble fingers.

Lucille

Yup. Actually, both Wegmans and the local Giant (like Publix) have kosher sections. Wegman's has a fresh meats section- pre-packaged, but not frozen, plus the frozen. Also, they have a full kosher deli section - with multiple color coded fridges,cases, etc - and the clearly marked sanctioning certificate. They carry a lot of baked goods that come from Green's kosher bakery in Brooklyn. Also, in the Maryland suburbs Wheaton/Silver Spring there are some kosher supermarkets, as well as butchers. There are a couple of orthodox synagogues with a surrounding neighborhood - and markets. I've been known to venture to the Shalom market for corned beef to cook.

ellice

I forgot to put a smiley on that. I've been known to make that kind of error myself, way too often.

Here's a few to make up for the forgetfullness :^)) ;*}} ;))))))

Our Publix has a Kosher section for Kosher hot dogs and salami, but they recently moved it to the case that has frozen Italian dishes like sausage and peppers and veal parmesan, as well as Keilbasi and Pork Hotdogs.

Not a problem for me, but definitely a problem for the people who really do stay strictlly within the guidelines of Kashrut.

It's only in the last year or two, since they got a new Rabbi in the local temple, who isn't afraid to intervene, that they even have anything more than a token box of matzoh on Passover. Still not much, but definitely an improvement for those who care.

Lucille

Thank you Ellice for the compliment ,,

i never think of being a gracious hostess , i just think i should respect other people`s traditions , habits , abilities etc...[ not to forget allergies] mirjam

And of course Ellice , your willingness and acceptance of her costumes without making a fuss about it, and her feeling that you do understand what it is all about , helped as well . And as you said , there are ways to deal with all of it. mirjam

Could you define "trife" for this Gentile? I've been watching this thread with interest, despite not having friends/acquaintences who keep Kosher that strictly. In other words, my firends who do keep Kosher have accepted food in my house.

(LOL!)

--Mickey Edmonton, AB

to reply: mickey18385 at yahoo dot com

I think the word Ellice used should have read "treif" and the definition is simply any food that isn't kosher.

Lots of people keep kosher homes, but don't make a big deal out of eating out and simply choose foods that aren't absolutely forbidden, like pork products.

The grandmother I spoke of in my prior notes was ultra orthodox.

Lucille

Makes sense. Thanks, Lucille.

--Mickey

Mickey the Yidish word Treif /trayf /tref or any other variation , is a development of the Hebrew word TREFA

1. An animal that has been killed by a a beast of prey. 2 Prey animals. 3 any meat that has an organic flow or sickness. All theses are forbidden to be eaten. A prey Animal is called Haya Torefet mirjam

What would an "organic flow" be? Bloody?