Needlework Tips

No. You don't get it. Blatant advertising has never been allowed. The types of post done by Dyan are absolutely allowed and have always been. You have taken it upon yourself to be the policeman of the group, and not very politely, I might add.

But other people like you ganged up on her. And now she's gone.

Do you not understand "the collective you"? And yes, *you* when it comes to Dyan's post.

Dianne

Now how is this not blatant advertising ?

We produce kits and not often do we get a call or email regarding a

No I have not but after she made several 'blatant' ads, I felt free to have an opinion on the subject.

Not very politely, bit better than Dyans technique of just being insulting I would suggest.

So how the hell am I responsible for that ??? Really Dianne !

Yes I understand a collective you, but used as you used it, it sure was not clear - you could have perhaps qualified it with generic you but in the middle of your finger pointing, it did not come over as generic.

That's an interesting idea. I've never done quite that with XS - but will park them up on top on a magnet if I'm doing a lot of thread changing in a confined area. Just being careful to come up in the proper place and be out of the way.

However, in NP, doing trame' work - working with 2 threads simultaneously, that's what is done. In the class I took from Carlene Harwick at ANG, the piece is almost all metal with silk over the tops, and some Or Nue' (which is shading by the use of silks over the metal). Carlene was great in having us understand that we would lay a line of metal, up, down, then come up the next row and park it. Then do the couching (whatever the pattern) with the silk, and bring it up where it would next start, park that thread, then take the metal and place the next row. In this way for trame' work it lets the tension on the metal stay nice as you can do that final little snug with the waiting part of the next row - I'm sure this is clear as mud - and similarly keep tension while placing the couching stitches. It's a nice idea for some work on linen - I could definitely see how this might work for some. IME the big thing is to be sure you don't get a tangle on the back by trying to park there.

I start at the center on some designs, mostly the non-linear types like flowery things, or animals, etc. But if it has a clear kind of rectilinear design, I'll probably start at the top. But, I don't do entire borders as in around a band smapler. I will do the top, come down a couple of inches, then work the center, and continue that way. Hate the thought of not matching up by going all around. This way, pretty certain to match up.

Ellice in sunny, chilly, NoVA

As usual, you just keep it going until others throw up their hands and you get your way. I'm sorry, but I'm not letting you get away with it. I'm pointing out that you are wrong about Dyan and her posts. That it is - because we are a generous group - okay for designers, authors, needlework shops to post, even if there's a little bit of sneaky advertising. The group as a whole has agreed to put up with it in order to be all-encompassing and generous to those who supply us with our favorite pastime.

Your carping at Dyan is not genteel nor what RCTN is all about and has been for the 14 years I've been a member. Neither is your snide remarks about me.

I rarely post anymore. I just check in to see if I can help someone from time to time. But your continual harping at Dyan just got to me, especially since you are out of line on this one. What you are doing is just being negative, and that kind of karma is never a good thing.

Dianne

snipped-for-privacy@fl.it wrote:

Aah so you're a policeman ?

No I'm not. I have quoted her ads to you but you prefer to wear blindfold. A sig line was what I felt had been agreed to.

That it

That would be a sig line, leaving it to other people to choose whether to view advertising or not.

The group as a whole has agreed to put up with it in order

When was that ? When the group as a whole decided the best thing was a sig line ?

So you are permitted to accuse me of driving authors and designers away but I am supposed to say "Yes Dianne, if you say so Dianne, three bags full Dianne" - well sorry that's not how I see it.

I don't think Karma enters into this !

Finished??? I have to find the chart first! However, I just got some charts I ordered after my on-line NS tempted us with pictures from the St. Charles needwork market. Both are Plum Street Samplers. One is Paradise Lost. I have so far not stitched an Adam and Eve thing, but this one has such great creatures, including a blue snake curling down the Tree and a giraffe eating a leaf from it. The other is Heaven Gave Rain which has a human sized tulip, and the most intersting diamond shaped rain clouds, echoing the nice argyle patterned lawn. So, if I am a good stitcher and file those away in my big basket of stuff, maybe the needlework fairies will sift the frogs up to the top of the pile for me.

Dawne

"ellice" wrote (many interesting things, including)

I work band samplers in rows, from the top down but most other stuff I work from the middle out. I am currently working the Fairytale Bookmark from Textile Heritage, and their directions call for starting at the top. Makes some sense, given the long narrow shape, but unusual. The worst pattern I have ever had for matching up was a wedding sampler with a ring design. Starting in the middle didn't make sense, as that was where all the names dates etc went, and I really wanted to have the ring around them done first, so I could keep track visually of how the script fit; although I charted it out, sometimes things look different stiched. So had to pick a point on the ring and start. I did this chart twice, and both times had to fudge the stitches at some point to get the ring to match. It could have been me, but I don't think so--not twice. And both times I stitched the expletive ring in rayon thread to get the right gold wedding band look; metallics didn't look right. So I especially enjoyed frogging the rayon. But it looked so pretty finished.

Dawne

now I remember why I gave up even reading this ng. Sigh!!! I'll go back to solitaire for my needle work breaks . ruby

Ruby - please stick around! Pretty please

Cheryl

Another old friend! Hello Rita! I lost touch with you a while back, but would love to catch up again. Will you email me please? ;-D

Great idea, TM!

A couple of tips I got on this group are "stitching in the well" and marking the center.

"Stitching in the well" refers to using a hoop. Most people stitch with the outer hoop visible. When you're "stitching in the well", you mount your fabric in the hoops "upside down", so that the right side of the design is down inside the hoops, with the inner hoop visible. This makes starting and ending a thread close to the edges of the hoop

Another tip I learned here (from Jim Cripwell, I believe) is to mark the center of your fabric with a pierced earring, preferably the post type. The backing will keep it in place until it's necessary to remove it.

Keep 'em coming, folks!

Joan

I still don't see this as any sort of real advertising. Dyan *is* sharing with the group personal stories about the company process of kitting projects they sell. Also shared is what a customer should do if supplies run short and how the company responds. I see nothing telling me that they are the best, etc. etc. and we should buy from them or anything even remotely like that. I am a Professional Seamstress. I have been paid to do finish work on needlework items. I post about that here. I have shared stories of how I do the finishing, how I go about solving client problems and have even offered to do finishing for the readers. I even started a thread about trying to put together some sort of finishing class for CATS when it was still in operation. Classes that I would be PAID to teach. How is THAT not a worse form of advertising than what Dyan posted? WHY did no one ever take me to task for my posts? Doesn't matter how much I post here on other topics -- at least it shouldn't! So -- why is there a double standard for better known "names" who do a retail business and folks like MOI who get work mostly by word of mouth? CiaoMeow >^;;^<

PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< (RCTQ Queen of Kitties) Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about their whiskers! Visit my Photo albums at

I posted earlier about this and I clearly remember that the consensus was that designers, shop owners, etc. were OK posting that they had something newly released or even a big sale going on. As long as the posts weren't terribly long or arm twisting, it helped out those of us who don't have a LNS to know what was going on and when we might be able to get some good bargains. It's unacceptable for some idiot in a foreign country to post here about the wonderful needlework stuff they have for sale or for the long, involved type of posts that MLI used to besiege us with. For a designer to tell us a new chart is soon to be available or even for someone like Dyan to tell us about how their shop handles the kitting process and resulting problems just doesn't compare -- IMNSHO -- as far as advertising goes. CiaoMeow >^;;^<

snipped-for-privacy@fl.it wrote:

Jinx

You are not promoting the TM Finishing Company and wanting us to use your business. Even with the CATS effort, you might be paid to teach but that would only relate to half a dozen students etc and your info might lead others to consider teaching.

It's unacceptable for some idiot in a

Really ? In this age of online shopping the only time I consider where the item is strangely enough is the USA ! Coming from the USA if they insist on UPS or FedX, deal me out, it will cost me another $30 at the door ! Joan once pointed out a chart to me and I would have bought one except the designer would not ship USPS!

or for the long, involved type of posts that MLI used to

There's also the fact (and no, I didn't go back and check it carefully) that we seem to have gotten monthly updates on what was being offered in the store, with no other information or comment offered.

It was only when complaints were made that Dyan agreed to put in a comment about actually doing needlework and not just selling it.

Lucille

Then you must not see the stuff posted here periodically from places in China or India or somewhere else in the Middle East. Someone usually responds telling the person to post over at rctm but I'm sure the response is never seen. That crap is posted to all the web sites -- I see the exact same thing over at rctq & rcts. CiaoMeow >^;;^<

PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< (RCTQ Queen of Kitties) Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about their whiskers! Visit my Photo albums at