OT: Computer problems or quiet group?

I guess I missed all that. Thanks, I will go looking. Do you actually dial up through AOL? I'm already paying far too much to have a Metro line and AOL to realistically be paying for another service. Cable access is available here, but I'm just not in a financial postition at the moment to make the switch. Tegan

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Tegan
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"Tegan" wrote If I've misread the general opinion of cross stitch, then I'm wrong.

Funny. My first stitching love is needlepoint. Yes, there are patterns out there that involve many stitches, abstract textural patterns and multiple types of thread, but I prefer "pictures", and there can't be anything more basic than continental pr baskweave stitches. But I love what someone like Jennifer Pudney can make with it.

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now, I'm stitching a little piece on 40 ct gauze, but it is stilljust the same stitch, over and over. That is what I LIKE about it. Thesame stitch, over and over, calming, peaceful--because mostly I stitch torelax. I do other kinds of things when that's not what I'm after, but I'mthe one who recognizes what I need from my stitching right now (that's whyI put things down and pick up different ones). Do what you love, whatever anyone else has to say about it. Dawne

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Dawne Peterson

I think that`s pretty fair comment - I`d much rather do speciality stitches than just cross stitch, but since I`m unable to do very much in that line I get my fulfilment in designing cross stitch charts more than in the actual stitching (although I enjoy that very much too). Pretty much anyone CAN cross stitch, if they have the patience. It`s certainly not rocket science.

Pat P

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Pat EAXStitch

Do you pronounce it TEEgan or TEGGan? You hear Megan pronounced both ways after all, although I know that MEGGan is correct.

Pat P

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Pat EAXStitch

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> "Even your cross stitching" "Even canvas work">

I see what you mean, but I think you`re perhaps being a bit over sensitive? Those commenmts wouldn`t have lit my (usually short!) fuse! LOL

Pat P

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Pat EAXStitch

If that`s the case, Jenn, my fuse is lit! If we`re HAPPY doing cross stitch, who else does it concern? It`s not a competition, is it? In my case it`s not REFUSAL to try anything new (in fact I used to do crewel work, and other types many years ago) but the fact that most of the more complex stuff is difficult - even impossible - using one hand, although I do sometimes do a few "fancy" stitches on bookmarks. I used to love doing Jacobean designs.

I wish I could still crochet. Caryn did once suggest that I could try doing it using my feet, I believe - picture me, nearly 70, sitting on the floor and trying to crochet with my toes and one hand. LOLOLOL!!! I can`t even sit on the floor since I broke my hip!

I wonder that someone doesn`t make a stand with an artificial hand on it, set in just the right position so I could TAT again! Or even crochet, perhaps.

Pat P

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Pat EAXStitch

TEEgan, Pat. And the now ever popular nickname, TEEgs. My SIL spelled it Teagan for ages, because it was the only way she could remember how to say it. I've never been one for tolerating nicknames (have too many cousins with names that lended themselves to becoming "ie" names.. Silvia became Silvie, Edith became Edie,etc.)but a few years ago, my bud who lives in Ilford tagged me with Teegs and it's stuck. Heaven help me, I even answer to it! Although, now that you mention it, I bet it was supposed to be pronounced TEGGan. Darned Midwesterners can muck up anything! LOL

Tegan

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Tegan

As I was requested to find exact comments to support my argument, I'd like to ask the same of Dianne to support hers.

In addition to the post I quoted, I found at least 2 other instances where Dianne herself said the exact same condescending words "even cross stitch" to show how she held those who choose to do only cross stitch as lesser stitchers than people like herself who "spread their wings."

If anybody was "unkind" about other forms of needlework, I'd like to see it, with the link please, so we can see if they are reacting to someone telling them they should be doing something else first.

Caryn

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crzy4xst

Especially in King Chat man I miss that chat....

Jenn L.

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Jenn Liace

Before I get to links, ladies who are mentioned, please do not take this as any kind of attack or anything like that. I probably should have kept my fingers silent last night, because I now see from a preliminary search that my memory is spotty on this subject, likely as a result of emotional investment at the time of the original comments.

Also, I've not read through these threads fully as I'm searching.

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started by Dianne WRT magazine article and phrasing used.TiaMary's first post in the thread (#9 total according to Google) -and specifically the first paragraph of said post - is one of theones that stuck in my craw at the time and still rankles just a tinybit now that I see it again. At the time I first read this, it cameacross to me as if she was hot for an argument. As a result, the restof the post was mentally lost to me.http://tinyurl.com/8gtf4Another thread started by Dianne, spun off from another thread so Idon't have the comments that started this thread without running asecond search for the thread title, and I didn't want to put that mucheffort into this LOL. Dianne is again defending the right of those ofus who only want to do XS, or only do temari, or only do whateverelse.
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one popped directly to TiaMary's post that definitely addresseswhat I (and I think some of the other "just cross stitchers" here)have been feeling from the posters who are heavily into other types ofstitching. Not a "you MUST do other types", but she does say that herposts suggesting that we try other kinds may come across as a "mustdo" mentality.

Yes, I know that what I've posted, which was just the top 3 hits on RCTN and "try something new" that were obvious encouragement for someone who did try something new, give a mixed picture. But the fact is that there HAVE been individual posts and in fact significant portions of threads or complete threads that could easily be interpreted by the reader to say that we're somehow deficient for not wanting to branch out into other forms of embroidery for whatever reason we choose not to do so. And in some cases, the author obviously knows that is how the post may (or will) be read.

Jenn L.

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Jenn Liace

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Dianne Lewandowski

opposite.

It is hard to read one's own words with the eyes of another.

While you think your words come across to all as being encouraging, to some they are in fact insulting.

Not everybody wants to be "encouraged" over and over again to try new kinds of embroidery. The fact that you feel it is your mission to try to get everyone to do so, doesn't mean that your posts aren't an irritant to people who either don't wish to do other sorts of embroidery, or have tried them in the past and don't wish go ever do them again.

I find your posts to be nagging, while you believe them to be encouraging. Others may see it your way, while it's clear a couple people have seen them the way I do as well.

Caryn

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crzy4xst

Then I have a suggestion: Ignore my posts. Kill file them. There are always going to be people with whom personalities grate. Why read them and set yourself up to be angry?

Obviously I annoy some people. I can't change my personality to suit every single person who reads RCTN. So, the best thing to do is ignore. More importantly, post about the love of your needlework life so that you can be involved in conversations that are more attuned to your needs. Dianne

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Dianne Lewandowski

Hey Linda! I remember that discussion, and actually I thought of you today! We went to the Cloverdale Rodeo Fairgrounds and in one of the buildings was a needlework display. There was cross-stitch, needlepoint, petit-point, bobbin lace, and quilting. I thought of you because there were no Japanese Temari Balls! But the work that WAS there was beautiful! If I had my way, that display would have been MUCH BIGGER and encompassed many more forms of stitching, but I believe this is the first year they've had any kind of needlework display so maybe it'll be bigger next year. :)

Maureen In Vancouver, B.C.

Linda D. wrote: ............A few months ago a couple of us talked about Japanese temari

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Maureen In Vancouver, B.C.

Thanks for saying this. I know I was starting to feel alone (and close to unsubscribing). Maybe we can bring RCTN forward on a more positive note.

Tara

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Tara D

Isn't that how we lost Melinda Coss (or was it Cross) and Robert Tulser, among others? I remember those two being prolific when I first came here, then a few months later they were gone.

Tara

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Tara D

I have mostly ignored you for months now, the only reason I even responded to your attack on Tegan's reasons for not posting was because your post really ticked me off.

She gave her reasons for being quiet, her reasons were clearly stated and were clearly her personal reasons and perceptions of how things are going here.

You, however, came in and blasted her, telling her her reasons (again her PERSONAL REASONS) were wrong, because you could not see things from her point of view.

Just because you can't see things from her point of view does not mean her point of view is wrong, it's just different from yours.

Caryn (still waiting for the specific anti-non-cross stitch posts links)

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crzy4xst

Yep. Once you have Netscape configured, you dial into AOL, switch to the Netscape window, click on Download/Sync, and it fetches RCTN while you fetch a cup of tea. So, it's not as convenient as just AutoAOL-ing everything, but works pretty much the same once you do those couple extra clicks.

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Karen C - California

Paging Mr. Fred! Paging Mr. Fred!!!

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Karen C - California

"Pat wrote

Yeah right ----with flexible fingers to be posed in whatever gesture suits your current mood?????? Dawne

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Dawne Peterson

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