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I did, most of the time, with #1 son. Paper diapers were for times when out & about. With #2 son, paper was the best way to go, unfortunately. We were on Okinawa, living off base-- utilities were sky-high. Washing a load in hot water in the play-house sized washing machine was expensive, drying them in the equally small dryer even more so-- and hanging them outside on the balcony generally meant you had to re-wash them because of the construction going on (they burned the trash...). I did use cloth until the first bills after #2 son was born; paper was much cheaper. Also, the military daycares refused to take babies with cloth diapers... and taking oneself or other kid(s) to appointments required the use of daycare.... Kaytee "Simplexities" on

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Its very possible to mix breastmilk into the cereal instead of cows or even goats. Baby humans need human milk. Its made for them. Im not convince goats milk is a great substitute for cows either. There are people who cant tolerate it any better. Diana

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Diana Curtis

See, the point I am hearing people make is that "there's worse" is not a good reason to accept badness. Geez, I've been through the gamut of physical and emotional abuse, poverty, and prejudice, but it still hurts when my body doesn't fit the cultural ideal, and stings worse when

*other* people whose bodies don't fit in a different way say hurtful things about it. It's very divisive.

So I know bad from worse, but I still don't accept bad as being good enough.

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Kalera Stratton

I don't remember exactly where I first heard this, but I've held onto it for several years now and I think it makes sense: If you don't want your children to have "issues" with their weight, don't ever talk about your

*own* weight issues around them.

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Precisely. I am *profoundly* grateful that my parents never PHYSICALLY abused me -- I've heard enough horror stories to have a very good idea just how much worse off I could have been. But that doesn't mean that I wasn't hurt and damaged by their emotional abuse, and having someone play the "Other people have it worse, you have nothing to complain about" game is... annoying.

Celine

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Lee S. Billings

As a person who has also had a pretty wide variation of shit happening, I find that damn word "priority" crops up again. I can't be indignant about every hurt.

I've got to choose my battles. I myself have to be dismissive about what hurts I allow to have power over me.

Tina

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Christina Peterson

And a physical blow is more understandable and identifiable than emotional abuse. It's like the guy who gets caught, stops slapping his wife around, and then puts her through even worse without ever laying a hand on her.

Tina

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Christina Peterson

I'm using cloth at home as well, only using disposables when out and about. When we go away for a few days later, I think I'll be keeping him in disposables the whole time. I think my aunt will understand (that's who we're visiting)

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melinda

Goat's milk is a bit rare in Oz. What do 'they' say about soy milk?

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melinda

I've never seen any in the local grocery stores!

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melinda

She dances Egyptian style cabarete(sp?), teaches that mainly, but includes some Carribean stuff, a little tribal stuff, but mostly traditional Egyptian. She's also a qualified yoga swarmi(sp?) and includes a lot of yoga stretches into warm ups and cool downs.

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melinda

True. However, it's one thing for *you* to make that decision, and quite another for someone else to tell you what to pay attention to and what to ignore.

Celine

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Lee S. Billings

Have you had a look at the picture of DH and myself on stage dancing? Long hair, gorgeous copper colour, slim - lighly muscled, and possibly a little geeky (he's a big Linux fan, I got him onto Pratchett!) He wears glasses only for driving, though.

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melinda

Absolutely.

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Christina Peterson

The allergy thing happens when protein molecules (cow's milk, etc) go through the bowel wall and get into the bloodstream, where the immune system decides they are invaders, and make antibodies to eat them and get 'em out of the system. Then you have a "Wanted Poster" of that protein in your immune system memory, which is what we call "allergies". In babies before 6 months, things go through the bowel wall easily as its not fully matured. The more you send through the early unprotected system, the more problems later. Sarajane

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OOOOOOOOooooooooo!!! Sarajane

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it hurt you anymore -- take up arms against it, move away from it!" One of the things that gave me an "Aha!" moment was this quote -- "What people think about you is really none of your business." It's true. So I started to work on believing that totally, and making it part of my armor.<

This is part of what I've tried to teach my kids. It's hard to understand, early on, that not everyone is going to like you. It's nothing wrong with you, or with them, it's just that not everyone fits for whatever reason, and it's NOT a bad thing. The problems frequently arise because somebody else separates YOU out for not fitting in to their definitions, which makes them uncomfortable. But instead of just wandering along and finding someone else who DOES fit, some folks have this freaky need to single you (generic you, BTW) out and be concerned about it.

What I've tried to tell the kids is, they don't like you, so what? Stick to the folks you do fit with, and don't sweat the rest. If YOU react to the baddies, you're essentially giving them some kind of power over you,

*allowing* them to judge you. And who are they to BE judge in the first place? It's taken a while to get this through to them, but it's working. My son gets so hurt because he's still a loyal fan of Pokemon, when most of his friends have "moved on" to whatever is new and NOW instead. I've asked him to consider being a bit more adaptable and open to new things, but also complimented him on knowing what he likes and sticking to it despite pressure to change. To his credit (and some of his friends) they've learned the art of compromise....taking turns playing the new game and a game of Pokemon. I see a fine political career ahead.

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Karen_AZ

Another quote I like is, "You wouldn't worry so much about what people think of you if you knew how seldom they do." This sounds flip and mean on the surface, but what it's expressing is that most people are concentrating primarily on their *own* problems -- you are peripheral to their inner world. In fact, one of the things they may be worrying about is what *you* think of *them*!

Celine

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Lee S. Billings

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Oooh, me too :(

I have a theory that all forms of abuse probably have verbal and emotional components or underpinnings. Physical abusers are those who also channel their rage and anger violently, but I suspect that every abuser can inflict a lot of emotional damage.

There are some interesting books out about verbal abuse which go into detail about the dynamics of these relationships, and I believe those dynamics probably aren't much different when someone in the relationship is a batterer.

Laura

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That was an Aha statement for me too. But I have to admit it took me a while after hearing it, for it to sink in.

Tina

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