vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from snipped-for-privacy@mindspring.com (Lee S. Billings) :
]particularly when you see people who express any sort of reservation ]about the actions the US government is taking being called "unpatriotic" or ]even "traitors".
absolutely.
]The line "My country, right or wrong" has a second part which is almost never ]quoted: "When right, to keep right; when wrong, to SET right." Leaving that off ]almost reverses the intended meaning!
exactly!
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's not what you take, when you leave this world behind you;it's what you leave behind you when you go. -- Randy Travis
"women's". I think I like the "jr's", "misses", and "women's" better than "plus size".<
Now, see, I'm not fond of those designations. It always sounded to me like junior was only for kids (and a good friend of mine is a size 3 and will probably never get out of Jr because of her proportions), misses for wild single women, and women's for....dowagers and other frumps. I wear women's sizes and am most certainly NOT either of those...but that's how it always sounded to me. Size and age (rather like behavior) don't always match.
i'm officially applying for the position as her assistant. my love of food rivals that of my love of beads, but I don't have anyone to share that with. DH's four major food groups are Pepsi, tacos (made with packaged seasoning mix), hotdogs, and peanut butter.
For someone to speak like that to you is inexcusable and outrageous.
Many of the problems large women have are from actions as well as words. I'm sure more women have lost jobs and promotions for being fat than for being thin.
There also are regional differences. In Calif and in many cities "look-ism" is more rampant than in other places.
Really, being "fat" or "skinny" are similar. Both can be health problems. Both can be hard or even impossible to overcome with any sort of normal lifestyle.
And while "skinny" is much more socially accepted than "fat", women who have had to endure the problems of being outside the norm on the "fat" side, the most usual and unacceptable side, have no business taking out their frustrations on someone littler than they are. Literally, but also as in being "a big bully".
vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Christina Peterson" :
]Not me. But I am loved and well dressed anyway.
that was not meant to mean anything except that my exercise program seems to be working. i quit buying much clothing when i reached a certain size because *I* didn't want to accept that *for me*. i have a convention i want to attend in October, and i want to be able to wear the clothing i already have, that i like.
i know you are loved, and i don't doubt that you are well dressed, whatever size you happen to be.
----------- @vicki [SnuggleWench] (Books)
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's not what you take, when you leave this world behind you;it's what you leave behind you when you go. -- Randy Travis
Actually we deal with exactly this quite frequently here on this newsgroup, and deal with it rather well, I think. You know, the one about "real beaders" or "real artists". We all do seem to come to the sensible conclusion that we do our best and our most fun or rewarding, and that's enough.
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Fortunately, sometimes not fitting in benefits our developement.
I agree with both of your points. That this is an environment where people -are- willing to get conscious of things most people remain unconscious of...
And that being -willing- to not be the Flavor of the Month, who is the 'right' size, or is wearing the current 'very special bracelet' -- that is a very liberating state of being. Lets you invent yourself, instead of feeling inadequate by someone else's standards.
vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Diana Curtis" :
]Who has enough closet space to hold onto a pair of pants that dont fit...for ]5 years! I want closets like that! Maybe... ]LOL ]Congrats VJ
well, i don't buy many clothes to start with - other than bluejeans and t-shirts - since i don't go out to work any more. so the "nicer" clothes are there from when i was working.
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's not what you take, when you leave this world behind you;it's what you leave behind you when you go. -- Randy Travis
So, lets invent new range names! Hmmmm... the new fall line..available in the delicate and demure dept, the dainty yet dynamite dept, the sturdy and capable dept... voluptious dept... modest madam.. mischeivous medium... frilly and frothy dept.... any more ??? Diana
I hate my thighs. Currently, about a size 3, and I hate my thighs. They used to be nice and athletic looking, now it looks like I walk on sticks.
I cannot begin to express how I loathe that statement. I not only get it from women, but men too. If you can believe that. There is a guy I know who from time to time will "remind" me how much *better* I looked when he first met me, and now I'm just skin and bones. Every time he's met with "are you jealous?" comment, to which he answers yes. Oh well, not my problem.
AMEN.
This post was not a "brag" post about being a size 3. Believe me, it's not fun. It's just as hard to shop for clothes at this size as it is for anyone else.
And the constant comments of being blown away with the wind, hula-hooping in a Cheerio, or hang gliding on a Dorito don't help matters either. Either does being called anorexic, bulimic, or a crack addict. Oh, and don't forget AIDS patient.
And just to throw this in, don't think that skinny chicks have perfect bodies. No way. Not unless you're in good with a plastic surgeon. I've got stretch marks like you wouldn't believe. The upper part of my thighs look like road maps. All I would really have to do is put on the weight. But that's easier said than done.
Sorry for the rant....
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