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Thank you Laura! both for the well wishes and for sharing your journey into beads and RCB. So much of what you said about rcb echos what I feel, I suspect its this more than the beads that holds the group together. I love how you came to beads to add play to your life. Again, thanks for sharing. This thread (or should that be called a strand here in beadland?) has been wonderful for a curious person such as myself to read... including all the offshoot discussions. Diana

Thanks.

The problem with closets is similar to the problem with hoizontal surfaces. Always full. Maybe it's OK that I don't have more closets. Maybe.

Tina

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Diana Curtis" :

]ok.. coffee bread and espresso is ON... make a special trip eh?

i wish! truly!

----------- @vicki [SnuggleWench] (Books)

's not what you take, when you leave this world behind you;it's what you leave behind you when you go. -- Randy Travis

In some ways I would love to have an extensive wardrobe but then I am really horrible on clothing and so maybe its better I have a few usable things and take better care of those? Just so you know I didnt mean my jest as a critisism.. :-) Diana

No.. please... the one I pictured had all plaid flannel shirts and sturdy looking blue jeans with hammer loops. But then... why is my stereotype the correct one? Could be evening gowns made of cotton duck... ruffles made of duct tape... purses full of grommets and handy totable tools.. How does the sturdy and capable woman of today dress? More for function than fashion? Diana, hastily trying to extricate her foot from her mouth..

Part of the beauty in all of you is how you accept yourselves as being those rough stones being tumbled instead of wasting a whole lot of time and energy wishing things were different, or trying to pretend things are different for you. You value yourselves....differences and all. It sets a standard that I am trying to emulate. Its good to have pioneers blazing a path. Diana

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"Kathy N-V" > We're like stones in a tumbler, the rough stuff and all thebanging around is> making us shiny and beautiful.>

I had a friend who was .. hmmm.. not dainty.. not thin... tiny? ..shorter than the national average?? I got some nice, kind lessons on what she lives with. She is a dancer and gymnast, and is a nicely proportioned person. She told me men constantly tried to pick her up, physically, and grunted to find all that muscle weight. ha on them! anyway.. what i learned is that she is person, deserving of respect no matter what her outter dimensions. sadly this means I had and have my fair share of predjudices that i didnt know i had... but now i can work to get rid of them. Thank you for sharing life from your perspective. I learned. Diana

Cooooool.. better safe than sorry tho.. ok.. coffee bread and espresso is ON... make a special trip eh? lol Diana

"The burdens of others are light to the shoulders." It's easy to wish for something of which you have no real understanding.

Celine

Isn't it funny how that happens? I'm guilty of it too, though I try not to be.

If you are happy and healthy the way you are, that's all that should matter. But the truth is, there are a lot of people on both sides of the fence who don't possess ( or want to ) the will power to change themselves. I guess they figure it's easier to jump on everybody else.

Rachel T. Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons For you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

Thanks for saying this. I actually know more thin women who publically express dissatisfaction with their bodies than I do heavy women.

In fact, because *I* needed support in coming to terms with the body I lived in, I started a body image support group -- and I was not only the fattest woman there, I'd say I was the only significantly overweight woman there!

I was stunned to read this. Do you remind him of how much nicer he was when you first met him?

My brother lost a lot of weight pretty suddenly from a combination of stress and undiagnosed diabetes, and he looked like an AIDS patient. I don't say that jokingly, because my brother had at one time been a drug user. I don't know if he did needle drugs, but I wouldn't be surprised. But for people to say that about him was very hurtful to him and our family -- not to mention uncompassionate, had it been true.

Thanks, Rachel, for sharing your perspective. I enjoyed seeing things from the other side of the coin. As I mentioned in my original post, I try to honor my thin friends feelings, when they mention their fear of food (some have it) or their displeasure with their bodies. It's their experience, so that makes it valid, even if it's hard to me to understand at the moment. When my 5'8", size 14, friend (or my size 4 friend) says, "I'm so fat!" I usually think 'I should be that fat!" . . . but I know that's how she's experiencing herself, so I never consciously respond with, "No you're not!"

Thanks again.

Jewitch

More people should try it!

Now this is going to bother me. The first time I saw your name in a thread, I thought I recognized it. I even knew a couple of things about you that later turned out to be accurate. When you responded to this post, I thought I'd placed you. Maybe an email list started by Irfon Kim?

Jewitch

I like that!!!!

Tina

You are very observant, Tina. I studied fashion for awhile, and developed a few pet peeves. Petite, for examples, does not just mean shorter inseam. It means shorter, proportionately. The rise should be shorter, too. But modern designers/manufacturers seem to have forgotten that. I am 5'8", but when it comes to pants, I wear a petite. I have a 26" inseam, and my favorite jeans have a 12 inch rise. But almost always, it seems that they cut from one pattern, then lop more off at the bottom and label those "short" ARRRRGGH!

I don't usually shop at Wal-Mart for clothes, but I noticed that my local WM has started carrying larger Jr. sizes (15, 17, 19, , etc.) in some of their denim brands. I was so thrilled to see this for the young girls! There was never anything fashionable when I was young.

Jewitch

btw, I see half-sizes is very upscale stores and some catalogs. yes, generally a little "thicker" -- fuller cut through the back, stomach, arms, thighs

Thanks! we will be having cake this weekend!

jewitch

Thanks for the link. My guess is if it tastes fresher, he won't like it ;-)

jewitch

I worked in that world for a while. I always felt sorry for women who hadn't learned yet that just shortening, doesn't make something petit. Those pants just don't hang right, when where the pants hang slender for the knee hits right at the calf!

Tina

manufacturer

LOL! That's exactly why i don't want to buy average and have them hemmed. Well, that and the fact that I have to pin the waste band to my bra to keep the crotch from hitting my mid-thigh . . . But I cannot convince a sales clerk that at my height I need petitt pants.

Jewitch

I have those problems with shoes. And if could talk to a knowledgeable sales person I could ask for what I want. Unfortunately, most sales people don't even know what I'm asking for, and most manufacturers don't make them.

Tina