OT: What a bummer (highly depressing)

I'll be praying the same thing.

Cheri (Bubbee to Emily and Nathan)

I know. I plan on giving it a good go.

Kathy, For ----'s sake, that's all you need! Your sister in law needs a sensitivity training course! And she can drive, there's no excuse for her not seeing you in a year! Give me her phone number and we'll give her a piece of my mind (like I spare it) Patti

SHIT.

-Kalera

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And the doctors are lucky I'm on this coast, because if I were there, I would have done it for her already. Unasked.

-Kalera

Oh jesus. That PCP should be shot. It would be a blessing if he drove into a tree and was decapitated by his windsheild.

Of course, insurance companies precipitate situations like this.

I'm spitting mad on one hand... but on the other hand, the possibility that there may be a discoverable root cause for your neuropathy does hold out hope for possible treatment. An *effective* treatment.

-Kalera

This symptom vs diagnosis thing is something that is very misleading. So often we hear a diagnoses described by a symptom. My big gripe of course is hearing the symptom of melancholy/depression described as the illness/diagnosis of Depression. What makes it a problem is that treating a symptom does*not* treat the condition, and thus can lead to dealing incorrectly with the disease. Or to thinking relief of a symptom indicates relief from a condition.

Tina

"Kathy N-V" wrote...

Those were kind of my thoughts, too, and to me her question expressed that extent of the changes Kathy's illness has wrought in her, and the fear and concern on the SIL. It doesn't seem that tactless, to me, to ask if a sick loved one is dying. You want the answer to be "No" or "I don't think so" but if the answer is "yes", you want to know. In case they were afraid to say, were hiding it from you. Knowing a loved one is going to die is far less unspeakably horrible than losing one unexpectedly, believe me. Not because of any nonsense about "coming to terms", but because it allows you to spread the initial shock and grief out over a few weeks or longer.

Before anyone takes from this that I have a cavalier attitude toward dying, I want to make it clear that I fear and dread losing any more of my loved ones. I have a very hard time grasping the concept of "alive, then not alive". It feels very wrong to me, and it makes me feel helpless and scared. I just think that it shouldn't be an ugly unmentionable... it happens, we are all subject to it, and we can't make it go away by not addressing it.

-Kalera

~Snippity~ "since I'm alone so much" We may not be all snuggled up in the chair next to you honey, but we _are_ there with you.

I talk about you on and off all day--to myself, to my mom, to my husband, to my kids--whoever will listen, really. My mom and Adam know every bit of anything you've ever shared with us, including things that happened long before I joined RCB. ( I Googled the heck out of you, heehee) You are an important part of my days and nights--whether it's in thought, feeling, or even e-mails--you are here with me. So it stands to reason that if You and with Me at all times, then I (and all of us here) am with You.

Alone is not a word I would use to describe you. Isolated, yes, but not alone. Never alone.

I've had you over for my famous creamy meatloaf dinner. I've shared a laugh with you over a funny passage in a novel. I've gone shopping for kids clothes with you. I've designed jewelry with you. I've chosen how I present myself with input from you. Even if I wasn't able to do those things in person with you, I still did them, and you were right by my side.

I love you so much, Kathy. And in _that_ *I* am not alone.

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Christina Peterson" :

]My big gripe of course is ]hearing the symptom of melancholy/depression described as the ]illness/diagnosis of Depression. What makes it a problem is that treating a ]symptom does*not* treat the condition, and thus can lead to dealing ]incorrectly with the disease.

bingo! IF you know what disease is causing the depression!

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Diana Curtis" :

]Around my house you are known as 'that lady.. you know... Zee bree?'

in my circle, she's known as 'that wonderful Kathy from around Boston'.

Re: Mexican pharmaceuticals.

If you have a valid US prescription, it's legal to have it filled in Mexico (there are limits in how much you can bring back-- I think it's 3 months worth). If you go to a reputable pharmacia, you'll even get what the script says; many of the meds sold in Mexico are made in the US.... The major difference in the cost(s), is the insurance costs included in the US filled scripts-- if something goes wrong with (re)actions, side effects or whatever, you can't sue the pharmacy, the pharmacist, the manufacturer, the distributer.... In the US, you can.

The only meds you can't legally bring back are "control drugs" for which you do not have a valid prescription. This means the script cannot be for something that cannot be prescribed for an outpatient to take outside a medical facility. So, no cocaine eyedrops... Kaytee "Simplexities" on

That is really good to know. Not that I'm near enough to Mexico to take advantage of it, but if I or anyone close to me ever has such a need, I'll know how to fill it. Thank you!

You're a font of useful information tonight.

-Kalera

On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 22:15:04 -0400, vj wrote (in message ):

Around here, she's the pain in the ass that's always hogging the computer.

Kathy N-V

My DH knows most of you by name now...

-Kalera

Acupuncture worked on my dogs -- and there isn't a placebo effect on doggies. So have utter faith......whether it's understood or not just plain doesn't matter. :-D ~~ Sooz To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph Chilton Pearce

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Kathy N-V :

]> in my circle, she's known as 'that wonderful Kathy from around ]> Boston'. ]> ]Around here, she's the pain in the ass that's always hogging the ]computer.

Acupuncture worked on my dogs -- and there isn't a placebo effect on doggies. So have utter faith......>

Acupuncture worked on my MOTHER - even though she sat there and said "This will never work..."

LOL Cheryl DRAGON BEADS Flameworked beads and glass

That's why I got my own computer. Now we don't have any "when are you going to be done?" conversations.