Dr Brat ,,,,,Elizabeth As always you are reading my posts with a Bad eye. i never wrote that Nicole was a liar , she called me a liar ,i said that we know and it was confirmed many times that, for many years German Kids weren`t Fully told what really happened.[I can even tell you that in East Germany they were taught more than in West Germany ] You have read my posts long enough to know i rarely use that term..about people.
I don`t really care what Origin you are from , and i think that it was Reasonable/ right to point out to Nicole that a discussion between her and me is problematic, and that only open discussions can help. . Even We who research and read Original Documents are Learning more [gahstly] facts , with each paper we read. Believe me, it is not easy to do such research. But it is requested , so that it won`t be forgotten, and hopefully never happen again.
As always you jump on my words, Because you can`t understand or rather won`t understand, That i have a right to my feelings, which obviously are Different than yours. Secondly you have no regard to the fact that i do research in this subject, and know a bit more than you care to know, But my researched and well documented knowledge, disturbs you. You can Write or say what you want, it doesn`t change any fact i know , nore will it make me feel different about the importance or validity, of my research. .
It always surprises me that you as an Academic are so blind to understand other people`s point of view, nore have respect to other people`s researches and findings. Or let`s correct it have a `selective` respect for Other researches. I first thought, [and in fact wrote but deleted], some facts about the change in knowledege due to reading documents in regards to the Dutch Jewery`plight. But i am not sure you are interested. Maybe what you call Complexity of having a rational discussion , is your inability [ i hope and try not to believe it is unwillingness] to accept, that people like me who have long researched, and weren`t afraid of the ` Propaganda ` of interested parties, nore of looking very hard facts in the face, and deal with them.[ and have a personal experience of sorts.] Might, learn to know facts that are different from what you WANT to believe. Maybe you have a cultural problem , to understand us. You agree with me that a meeting between a German and a Jew is complex. Probably it hasn`t occured to you that a meeting between a Christian and a Jew also has it`s complexities.
yes i said her reactions were immature , but i NEVER called her a liar.
I wasn`t furious, i pointed out that she made a mistaken statement.
See , who talks , isn`t this your regular mode of behaviour? i think i keep trying to be polite to you, while you are the first to jump on my posts ,,,, see the post about the woman with the Xst tablecloths,,,,, you just couldn`t resist another possibility to show a supposedly fault of mine.
that is tottaly your Interpretation......she keeps dragging all kinds of unrelated comments ....while accusing me of things i never said
I have not modified my statement since i never changed the facts i know/ since i am not in any courst i talk/write and may say the same facts in a variety of words and expressions, One of the reasons i never have to look in the archives , is just this i say What i know, since i have need to change my information , why should i worry about the exact wording. i can decribe a bush one day by it`s Latin name and opne day by it`s Common name , it will still be the same bush. i am extremly careful about what i say and how i say ,,, one benefit of English not being my First language, is just that extra moment one has to think about a pharse . Does It convey exactly what the Original term says??
At the time i have forwarded to many of my colleagues , who were Horrified. And last year i told about it in the to researchers in the International conference, in Holland. You have hurt me very badly, and i still think was an uncalled for cruel and stupid remark. You can Quote or misquote or pick up what ever you want , i was so annoyedby it that i just deleted it ,,, but every time you jump and try to portray me unkindly , i remember ,,,, mirjam