INFLAMMATORY Breast Cancer

Thank you Margaret, my thoughts exactly!!

I think I'll add one more thought, if the thread had been more about Inflammatory Breast Cancer, it probably wouldn't have been so bad, but it sounded more like a couple of people trying to outdo (and insult) each other. And re: Melinda's comment, I think I would rather read "200 "I'm praying for you" posts than the way it was going. That one thread filled the screen, it was so long, what about bandwidth there?! Also, maybe the people that set the rules about "our way of doing things" should re-name the group, because it covers anything and everything *but* needlework, and if heaven forbid, someone does ask a needlework related question, like the fish stocking cap pattern thread, they're referred elsewhere. Is that why the group consists of a 'select few' (huge group?!) that posts about *everything*, why you see the same names over and over (especially in the IBC thread!) and anyone new that has the audacity to post is criticized?? But then, you even criticize each other!! Yawn!!

What's wrong with someone directing a knitting question to a knitting group? Before you spew your nasty criticism, you should think about what you're saying.

Margaret and Betty maybe if more lurker really joined , discussions here will be different and more variated ,, What are you too making with your needles ? mirjam

You didn't read through to the end of the IBC thread did you ? Had you done so you would have found that any misreading was cleared up and although the Subject Line remained the same, it should have been altered somewhat.

It's a pity that people who read Boards do not understand that usenet is very different and that without usenet Boards would never have happened.

I can't understand why if you are so critical you bother to post here at all - unless of course you are just trolling.

Karen, I had the same results from a sterling ring. Anyone who has supposed improvements from that sort of thing should remember the placebo effect.

I often find that people who are most convinced that this sort of quakery works are exactly the people who derided evidence-based medicine where tests and studies have actually shown results for more orthodox treatments.

MargW

Amen to that. This group specializes in needles with holes in them, not knitting needles. Some of us do knit, but you'll find more (and more avid) knitters in the yarn group. The knitters here may know 10% of available knitting patterns, but the ones there know 100%. My collection of knitting patterns is tiny compared to my collection of cross-stitch patterns.

If you asked us a question about car engines, we'd be just as likely to send you to a car group instead of letting you think that our ill-informed answer was definitive.

On behalf of the group, I apologize if you thought that someone telling you where to get a better answer was an order to "get lost".

As far as the rest of your commentary, every group on the Net has their own way of doing things. I belong to one group where politics is absolutely forbidden, and other groups where the subject often digresses into a political debate. If you want a group that discusses nothing but needlework, we can certainly direct you to where you can find such groups, but here the consensus is that we can discuss other topics, just as you'd hear gossip and recipes at an in-person sewing circle.

I'm sorry if our way of doing things isn't the way you're used to in other, smaller groups, but it's our way. Or maybe you're one of those people who would go into my kitchen for a glass of water and start re-arranging the cupboards because my way of organizing them isn't the same as yours?

That`s par for the course. You learn to ignore it if you don`t want to get involved. Or killfile those who REALLY get up your nose. Most of the time it just chugs along pretty peacefully and usually very informatively and humorously!

Don`t give up on us yet - personally I`ve made some VERY good friends here - and some pretty good enemies, too, of course, but that`s life! You just get on with who you get on with, just as you do in life. Hang around a bit longer - unfortunately you just happened along during a spat.

"This, too, shall pass!"

Pat

You were not out of line at all in voicing your opinion. But I was not out of line at all in voicing mine, either. It sure would be a boring world if every place was the same, and each message area (mailing list, newsgroup, message board) on Usenet has its own flavor.

Just because someone here does not like a newsgroup clogged with "me, too" types of posts doesn't mean that you need to leave or that you have to agree with us. And just because we don't act just like the people on the 123stich message board, that doesn't mean that one or the other of us is wrong. Just different.

I'm okay with that, and I hope you are, too.

I was not criticizing, but I cannot speak for anybody else.

If you're so concerned about people criticizing each other, why is it that all of your posts, from the very first one, have been to voice a criticism?

Pot, kettle, black, darlin'.

Elizabeth

Not criticizing, just stating a fact, DARLIN'!

"Pot, kettle, black", isn't that what you're do>

I'd hardly call what you did "stating a fact." There was a clearly critical opinion both implied and expressed in your post.

I'm not stirring anything that hadn't already been stirred. Just expressing my opinion that it is amusing that you find us all so critical.

Oh, I've more than earned it over the last 15 years, thank you.

Elizabeth

Have you seen the T-shirt that says "you say *itch like that's a bad thing"?

(Considering under what circumstances I've most often been called a

*itch, I take it as a compliment -- it's proof that I don't knuckle under when bullied.)

Shall I get a package of inkjet transfer paper and send you a T-shirt that says "you say Brat like that's a bad thing"? ;)

I guess we're all entitled to our own opinions then, aren't we?! I just commented on how long and argumentive this thread was getting, which was true (is it starting again?) and I wasn't the only one that felt that way, and *I'm* the one that got hit with all kinds of rude comments and criticism! Yes, the pot was stirred, *by everyone else*! "amusing that you find us all so critical", I'm glad you thought it amusing, I didn't, it was the first time I had posted and I was only reading the thread because as I said originally, my daughter is battling cancer and I thought I might find something helpful, was I supposed to just take everyone's rude comments and not say anything back? Sorrrry, I don't knuckle under when bullied either! And it is true that you see the same names all the time, maybe that's why no one new posts, they're driven away!!

Maybe it did some good to say something tho, at least there were some needlework posts after that, even though Karen had to get her little dig in (before it was changed to a 'capture the cat' thread, lol!)! Guess she doesn't like needlework posts on a needlework newsgroup.

Just saw your latest post, Karen, thanks, you don't miss a beat, do you?! You sound like a really nice person, you have to have the last word on everything, don't you (even that Hersheys thread!)?!! Why don't you send us all T-shirts with your chosen names on them, being you call people you don't even know "whackjob" (I hope that wasn't directed towards me)! I had written a (long) reply to you, but decided not to send it (I'm not as rude as some), I may change my mind though! If you have anything else to say to me, why don't you send it to my email address and we'll keep it off the board, or do you just like the attention?!! tee hee

Thank you to the (few) ladies that did encourage, I noticed that 'flitterbit' (that Lucretia was hav>> Not criticizing, just stating a fact, DARLIN'!

Interesting ,, i only saw that she was criticized ,,, as a new comer she might not know all of the people here , but she has ALL the RIGHT in the WORLD to share her feelings about posts here , as she sees them. mirjam

mirjam .>

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Attack ? I think there is some paranoia going around. First you condemn the length of the thread - now you lengthen it.

Flitterbit and I ironed our differences out - they weren't really that different anyway - we're happy, too bad you are not. You keep saying you are not reading us any longer because we do not meet your specifications...

lucretia,

You got rude comments and criticism because you started with rude comments and criticism. I can assure you that had you been less confrontational with your first (and according to you, last, but I guess not really) post, you would have gotten a less hostile reception.

I've been posting and reading here a long time and there is not a better group of women (and men) on the internet, but we don't take kindly to people who charge in and tell us what to do or how we should behave, which is what you did. Had you started differently, you would have gotten a different response.

I'm sorry your daughter is battling cancer. That must be an awful burden for you. I wish you both comfort and success in her battle.

Elizabeth